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Albus Malum15 Oct 2024 6:41 p.m. PST

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Just found this, very interesting, and what he describes, is what I first heard about when a teen age friend told me about D&D ( note it was prior to AD&D being published, but just barely)

Its a wargame! and its why people are confused about the 1e DMG.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP15 Oct 2024 7:40 p.m. PST

I'm remembering Betsy the Gnome going through her copy of Unearthed Arcana, drawing lines through entire sections and marking them NIMU--"Not in my universe."

A few years prior I'd had to explain 3-booklet D&D to She Who Would be My Wife and I described it as a cross between a skirmish wargame and improvisational theater.

Personal logo John the OFM Supporting Member of TMP15 Oct 2024 8:23 p.m. PST

Back in Ye Olde Golden Years of Yore, we had a VERY successful DnD campaign at Penn State (Hi, Scott, my Elven sword brother!) with White Box DnD. With of course Chainmail.
We never heard of "Advanced" (🙄), but dabbled in Greyhawk.

Kids today. I realize Stranger Things used the heretical Advanced, but I was okay with that. Cute kids. Cute nerds.
I never forgave Tom Hanks, by the way. 😄 You know why.

Albus Malum15 Oct 2024 9:10 p.m. PST

So back in about 1976/77 ( I was about 13 a wargaming friend of mine was talking about how he was playing this game called D&D, and the description of how he was playing was like in these videos. it they were building castles and going to war against each other, a year or 2 later, me and my brother bought Keep on the borderlands, ya with the chits instead of dice, and we on our own started playing like everone else did, as a single individuals but not the wargame style, but I always have know it was there, and I always wanted to play chainmail, but never did see a copy of it, and have still never seen a real copy of it even though I have a pdf now via the internet.

I would love to do it the style he described, but living in a small town, not likely, I have a very small group, ie my son and about 3 others ( all one family) and even before seeing these videos, I have been trying to push them in that direction, to no success.

The reality is, AD&D is a wargame, on top of the dungeon crawl, and its also rules for running a table top online world.

Rob, you said it well " a cross between skirmish wargame and improvisational theater, but it also works well as a large rank and flank also ruleset, with hundreds of miniatures on the table. I have actually used it as a combat system for battles with ~700 miniatures on the table, and AD&D handled it real well, lots od d20's and give everything average hitpoints. and apply dmg to the unit and take of the appropriate amount of figures.

Man I wish I could get people to play it this way again!

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP19 Oct 2024 10:33 p.m. PST

Tom Hanks is going to the Great Hall!!

-- I wish I still had my 2nd edition copy of Chainmail, published by Guidon Games, in the yellow cardstock cover. Bought via mail order in 1974. It would be worth a tidy sum today, but I let it go at some convention auction decades ago and probably got $20 USD for it, if that. Same for the 3rd edition, in the silver cover with spiral binding, published by TSR.

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