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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP02 Jul 2024 12:41 p.m. PST

"Continuing to fight Hamas in Gaza, Israel is preparing for a separate war with the Lebanese Hezbollah. The Lebanon-based terrorist group and political entity has been engaged in a low-level conflict with Israel since the day following Hamas's Oct. 7 atrocities in Israel. Hezbollah's rocket and other weapons fire has forced tens of thousands of Israelis to evacuate their homes in northern Israel.

Yet far greater escalation may soon follow. Having imposed significant damage on Hamas military capabilities, Israeli leaders believe they have earned the breathing room to refocus their gun sights on Hezbollah. While the Biden administration is attempting to mediate a peaceful resolution, the status quo is plainly unsustainable. Secretary of State Antony Blinken identified the problem on Monday, noting that Israel's "people don't feel safe to go to their homes. Absent doing something about the insecurity, people won't have the confidence to return."…"

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Dragon Gunner02 Jul 2024 1:44 p.m. PST

Evacuate US civilians and government workers now this could turn hot and bloody at any moment. Anyone stupid enough to ignore the evacuation order is on their own.

smithsco02 Jul 2024 3:44 p.m. PST

+1 Dragon Gunner

Then follow up with a massive shipment of ammo plus some Apaches to Israel (IDF doesn't have enough of them)

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP02 Jul 2024 4:09 p.m. PST

👍👍 Think they have AH-64s already. But they could sure use more 155 ammo. They have to attrite Hamas all much as they can. And continue to hunt down the rest like we did and are doing with ISIS in Syria and Iraq.

I don't think there will ever be a lasting peace until Hamas, Hezbollah, and other islamic terrorists that are getting support from Iran are severely attrited. Then repeat …

smithsco02 Jul 2024 5:14 p.m. PST

They have Apaches…not enough. They cut squadrons of them to save money. The government is trying to negotiate a quick purchase of more AH-64s. Definitely need the 155mm ammo. So does Ukraine. We need to up production even more than we have.

I agree on attrition. The question I have is if the political will is there to do it.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP02 Jul 2024 5:24 p.m. PST

Send ammo, stat, and whatever else they have used up in Gaza.

Stryderg02 Jul 2024 6:24 p.m. PST

Didn't they have peace in the region on October 6th? Or at least a cease fire.

Nine pound round02 Jul 2024 6:38 p.m. PST

Tell them for every American they kill, we'll kill ten of them. Their women and children count half.

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP02 Jul 2024 10:02 p.m. PST

I don't think that would work Nine pound round.

As Golda Meir once said, "There won't be peace until the Arabs learn to love their children more than they hate us."

One of the leaders of Hamas has lost several family members and isn't upset, he just praises them as martyrs.

Nine pound round03 Jul 2024 4:10 a.m. PST

That's because she wasn't willing to follow the logic of war to its ultimate conclusion. At some point, threatened with the loss of everything, a society will relent. Why bother applying the laws of war where nations that support terrorism are concerned? It's not like they're going to reciprocate.

Inch High Guy03 Jul 2024 6:04 a.m. PST

Iran is the problem, and has yet to suffer any real consequences for their proxy war. Take out the Iranian economy and this all starts getting better really quickly.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP03 Jul 2024 2:02 p.m. PST

Vincent +1 Yes, let the IDF finish the job for once. And yes there will be civilian losses inadvertently. Hamas is using them as human shields with a high body count for the media. To get sympathy from the useful dupes of the world. And as one may expect, MOUT is costly.

Inch High + 1

Iran is the real enemy. However, the US leadership continues to give them $ and plays softball with them. They still believe that they can talk to terrorist/jihadis, etc. At this point effectively upsetting their economy should be the #1 Priority. Not Global Warming. However, until the US gets more capable and dynamic leadership nothing will change.

Nine pound round03 Jul 2024 3:53 p.m. PST

Honestly, why should we care? For fifty years the Palestinians and their enablers have made war on civilians their mode of choice. That's a game two can play, and we can do it far more effectively- ask the Japanese. We once classified the entire population of Japan as a legitimate military target- is Hezbollah or are the Palestinians better?

Why do we care what happens to people who would gladly kill us?

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP04 Jul 2024 7:38 a.m. PST

We really shouldn't … but some at the top don't want to look like the USA does not care about "brown" people. As in Somalia before. In both cases it was about optics. Plus, it is an election year.

Nine pound round04 Jul 2024 10:08 a.m. PST

Politics and policy have been distorted by academia for a generation, unfortunately.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP04 Jul 2024 10:13 a.m. PST

This is about Israeli security and our influence in the ME, IMO. We care about this for strategic reasons, both ours and our allies.

A place where we never seem to make much headway. Not dealing with Gaza means no peace agreements, but behind it all is Iran, pulling all the puppet strings and making that a moot point.We seem to have lost yet another opportunity for action. But Hezbollah, the original Beirut attackers, may give us another opportunity.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP04 Jul 2024 3:44 p.m. PST

Tortorella + 1


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