Gunner Dunbar ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 06 Jun 2024 2:48 a.m. PST |
Hi guys The PzIVHs of the 3rd Coy, 1st Batt, 22nd Pz Regt, 21st Pz Div finished, pretty relieved to get these done, they were taking a little long and I was getting antsy and eager to move on, next up will be the 1st batt (mech) of Panzer grenadier regt 125. I'm also starting to think about doing some French tanks in German service, I want to do a battalion of French tanks, but I'm torn between doing the 2nd battalion of the 22nd which technically wasn't present on D-Day, it was off getting its French tanks replaced by PzIVs or doing the 100th Pz training and replacement battalion, my main focus is modelling rather than gaming, here are some pros and cons, which way would you go? 2nd Battalion 22nd Pz regt – Pros = they had mostly Somua S35s which are a pretty cool tank, 1 x 39H, some PzIVHs and some PzIVCs so a bit of modelling variety, also this unit falls within the scope of the 21st Pz Div project, but really shouldn't be present during d-day 100th Pz training and replacement battalion- pros = the mix of tanks from a modelling perspective is much cooler, a Char B1, an S35, a heap of R-35s and 39Hs and some FT17, the battalion was actually present on d-day and suffered a shellacking at the hands of US paras, but it doesn't fall within the scope of the 21st project, the battalion was attached to the 91st air landing Div, and I don't want to be tempted into starting a 91st project, I'm keeping my Normandy Axis projects to the 21stPz Div and the 16th Luftwaffe field division. link
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Cuprum2 | 06 Jun 2024 3:00 a.m. PST |
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Artilleryman ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 06 Jun 2024 3:35 a.m. PST |
If the priority is modelling, then I would go for 2nd Battalion 22nd Pz Regt. Though they were not engaged on D-Day, they were still part of the Division even though they were elsewhere. This allows modelling interesting vehicles and illustrating the German use of Beutepanzer. It also stays within your project parameters. |
Disco Joe | 06 Jun 2024 3:45 a.m. PST |
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Gunner Dunbar ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 06 Jun 2024 3:46 a.m. PST |
" If the priority is modelling, then I would go for 2nd Battalion 22nd Pz Regt. Though they were not engaged on D-Day, they were still part of the Division even though they were elsewhere. This allows modelling interesting vehicles and illustrating the German use of Beutepanzer. It also stays within your project parameters." All true. |
Murvihill | 06 Jun 2024 4:11 a.m. PST |
I'd do the 100th. As you say, the 2nd bn isn't a Normandy project and as the 100th is an independent unit only attached to the 91st, you can claim it as a separate build (that is, without the 91st). |
Dal Gavan ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 06 Jun 2024 5:04 a.m. PST |
Good work, Dan. Have you planned a game to blood them? |
Bandolier | 06 Jun 2024 5:09 a.m. PST |
Very nice work. The great paint job on the crews and drivers really adds character to the unit. |
Frederick ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 06 Jun 2024 7:25 a.m. PST |
Great work and especially love the crews – that Panzer IV with the whole crew unbuttoned is superb! |
DeRuyter | 06 Jun 2024 9:13 a.m. PST |
Superb job on the weathering! |
Col Piron | 06 Jun 2024 11:02 a.m. PST |
21. Panzer Division w/ Panzer IV Ausf C in Normandy . link
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Berzerker73 | 06 Jun 2024 3:07 p.m. PST |
Your vehicles are so well-painted! |
Gunner Dunbar ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 06 Jun 2024 3:27 p.m. PST |
Thanks guys No game planned yet. Yes, the PzIVC option with the 2 batt, 22nd Pz Regt is tempting. |
laretenue | 07 Jun 2024 4:43 a.m. PST |
My interests lie in the same place as yours. But I'd still go for the 100th, on the grounds that it got into the action. Almost any late-War Germans will suffice for the Battalion's infantry and troops of 91st Luftlande, and few of us can resist forever doing some US Airborne. |
laretenue | 07 Jun 2024 4:47 a.m. PST |
PS And I am making a couple of early Pz IVs (Mirage plus Armourfast-bases kitbashes) to boot, without worrying whether the turret numbers match with those of the later Ausf.Gs. |