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35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2024 6:07 a.m. PST

I see and hear many who don't like DJT say he will take our freedoms away. He will destroy the Constitution. He will become a dictator. Also some far, far worse. Nothing I say would change their views. Out of context soundbites are powerful, especially when you control 90% of the mainstream media.

So instead let me try and give you a view of what many who support him see occurring and what will occur, with another 8 years of the current administration, especially run by an individual whose even left of the current president, based on her own views espoused in the past… which are documented.

They see the US going down the path of Venezuela. A country that was the model in South America until Socialism/Communism were "allowed willingly" to take over. They see what happened there as a blueprint, that will be used here.

Have you seen and heard what's going on there in the last few days? If not, you should dig in and read about it.

So, what was one of the first things to take place there? Gun buybacks("our crime is too high"). This was followed by gun confiscation and the ban on selling arms to civilians. This was the start. But people had themselves to blame, they voted them in and initially they were willing to do it. They regret this now.

If you want to follow the downfall of Venezuela. Please go out and read some articles.

Gun confiscation:

"Cϊcuta, a city straddling the Colombian and Venezuelan border, had become the stuff of nightmares: a microcosm of the conflict burning Venezuela alive. Its citizens had become unable to defend themselves or their families from danger and economic ruin.

And the Venezuelans are the first to tell you that so many of them willfully surrendered their right to bear arms in the lead-up to the 2014 crackdown. They told me this as clear words of warning.

"Venezuela is paying the price for the gun ban. The civilians are unable to defend themselves from criminal actors and from this Maduro regime's abuses," activist and university teacher, Miguel Mandrade, 34, said from the fog-laden, barren city of San Cristobal. "The uprising would have taken a different path and a different result if civilians had the right to defend themselves with the firearms they once owned."
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Subject: How Venezuela's Good Citizens Were Disarmed is a Lesson For Us


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From a more left perspective

Subject: Venezuela bans private gun ownership – BBC News


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This morning, after a heavily "rigged election":

"Colombia's leftwing president, who has a good relationship with Maduro, recognised there were "serious doubts" over the result."

With protests being suppressed in the street, who does their leadership and party blame?

"Later, during an encounter with the foreign press in the heavily guarded Miraflores palace, Maduro said he hoped to see Gonzαlez and Machado imprisoned. "These people must be put behind bars," he said as hundreds of supporters gathered outside.
"If you ask me … what should happen with the cowardly and criminal Gonzαlez and the fascist from the criminal ultra-right … named Machado, I would say as a head of sate that there must be justice," Maduro added.
Maduro claimed the attempt to remove him from power was part of a global extreme-right movement involving politicians including Argentina's president Javier Milei, El Salvador's president Nayid Bukele, Brazil's former president Jair Bolsonaro, the Spanish party Vox and the billionaire owner of X, Elon Musk.
"We are facing a violent, fascist and criminal counter-revolution," the handpicked successor of former president Hugo Chαvez proclaimed, vowing to resist – by force if necessary.

"Venezuela will not fall into the hands of fascists, criminals and imperialists … We want to continue along the path that Chαvez traced … But if North American imperialism and the criminal fascists oblige us I will not hesitate to summon the people to a revolution with other characteristics," he said."

Subject: Venezuela's Nicolαs Maduro blames unrest on far-right conspiracy as isolation grows | Venezuela | The Guardian


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Does this all sound familiar here in the US?

You can laugh and say this is ridiculous. That's fine. But that is how many believe the fears of the other side are about DJT. But these are fears I hear from some voting for DJT.

Maybe this will help to understand the other sides fears.

Many of the things they fear, are beliefs expressed in the past by the current VP when doing interviews.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2024 7:27 a.m. PST

Ok SB, I get it. But it is not as immediate or direct as 2025, I think, and given the number of cities across the planet involved, not as specific or overtly political. A more subtle type of change, but it does have a sort of sci fi scary feel to it, from the parts I read.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2024 7:43 a.m. PST

35th, the attacks on both are going to grow to extreme volume. If you hold Harris and Trump equally to their earlier cringy views and statements, the sheer number of Trump's is certainly larger. Add in Vance and the gotcha game gets worse. Harris has her own issues.

Maybe both sides should insist that their candidates never said radical things or were joking. It seems to work to some extent. That's politics today. Watch to see who actually owns their past gaffes.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2024 8:27 a.m. PST

35th, there may be no better place to learn about and understand views on the right than here. Sincere concerns about the future of America. Sometimes I don't see some of the comparisons and conspiracies, but in general, I do want a lot of hyped up change, prefer steady, can accept some things from either side. Whatever the far left is, it is scary. We are all afraid, I think, for our country, wherever we stand.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2024 8:44 a.m. PST

I would disagree that Trumps are higher, especially if taken in full context. 😉 But I do have loads of hers.. in context and during interviews. They have not been able to 1984 them all yet. 🙂

Yes I think we are all worried. Obviously in different ways. 😉

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2024 8:45 a.m. PST

Subject: Ohio purging hundreds of noncitizens from state voter rolls amid 2024 election audit

Were we not told after 2020, that this was not possible? And Ohio has pretty good voting laws, unlike some other states.

This should be mandatory yearly in every state.

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35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2024 9:34 a.m. PST

This is the type of "journalism" that leads to the divisions, that can lead to civil war. This was a question ask of Donald Trump yesterday at the black journalist convention

"Do you believe that vice president Kamala Harris is only on the ticket because she is a black woman?"

Now any research by this journalist, would have shown she was a DEI hire, by Joe Biden's own words. But instead we go for the gotcha question and soundbite


So here is the quote May 29, 2024
Girard College
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania:

"To me, the values of diversity, equality, inclusion are literally — and this is not kidding — the core strengths of America. That's why I'm proud to have the most diverse administration in history that taps into the full talents of our country. And it starts at the top with the Vice President."

The speech is on WH.gov, I'll even place the link at the bottom. It is in my opinion, a very divisive speech , composed of half truths and innuendos. It also shows a lot of what the agenda of the administration is.

The speech by he and the VP

"THE VICE PRESIDENT: Good afternoon, Philadelphia. (Applause.) Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Good afternoon.

I want to thank Robert Nix for your leadership and for those very kind words and all you do for our country.

And I want to thank all the incredible leaders who are here with us today, in particular our young leaders. It is so good to see you all. (Applause.)

I also want to thank the members of the Congressional Black Caucus who are with us this afternoon. (Applause.)

And, everyone else, thank you for being here.

So, in 2020, Black voters in Philadelphia and across our nation helped President Biden and me win the White House. (Applause.) Yes, you did. And in 2024, with your voice and your power, we will win again. (Applause.)

Philadelphia, in Joe Biden, we have a fighter; a leader with skill, vision, determination, and compassion; a leader who keeps his promises.

As a candidate for president, Joe Biden gave his word that we would fight to address some of the biggest issues facing the Black community, and we have delivered. (Applause.)

In 2020, Joe Biden and I vowed that we would lower the cost of healthcare, like insulin.

For far too many years, too many of our seniors with diabetes had to make the awful decision about either filling their prescription or paying their rent, and Black Americans are 60 percent more likely to be diagnosed with diabetes. So, we capped the cost of insulin for seniors at $35 USD a month. (Applause.)

And under Joe Biden's leadership, finally, we took on Big Pharma and finally gave Medicare the power to negotiate drug prices. (Applause.)

We also took on the issue of debt, which makes so many people feel like they can never get ahead.

Take, for example, medical debt. We are now making it so medical debt can no longer be included on your credit score — (applause) — so that medical debt cannot impact a person's ability to get a car loan, an apartment lease, or a home loan. (Applause.)

In 2020, we promised to forgive student loan debt. (Applause.)

Do I see people testifying? (Laughs.) Can I get a witness? (Laughs.)

And I'll tell you, I — I have a unique position as Vice President to spend a lot of time with our president. And on this subject, I remember sitting in the Oval Office with our president, Joe Biden, shortly after the United States Supreme Court struck down our initial plan to forgive billions of dollars in student loan debt.

AUDIENCE: Booo —

THE VICE PRESIDENT: A different leader — a different kind of leader would have thrown in the towel. Not Joe Biden. (Applause.) Not Joe Biden.

And I'm going to tell you what he said that day. I'm going to tell you what he said that day: "This is not over." (Applause.)

So, we kept fighting. And so far, we have forgiven over $165 USD billion in student loan debt for over 5 million Americans. (Applause.) On average, more than 30 dollar — $30,000 USD per person and $70,000 USD for our public servants, like nurses, firefighters, and teachers. (Applause.)

In 2020, we promised to take on the issue of the epidemic of gun violence, knowing that today, in America, gun violence is the number-one cause of the death of the children of America — not car accidents, not cancer — gun violence.

We took on the issue knowing Black Americans are 10 times as likely to be the victim of gun homicide.

And I'll tell you, I have personally held too many hands of mothers and fathers as I attempted to comfort them after their child was killed by gun violence.

So, to address this crisis, under the President's leadership, we passed the first major gun safety law in nearly 30 years — (applause) — a bipartisan law to strengthen background checks.

And, again, I sat in the Oval Office with the President, where he sat down with Democrats and Republicans and appealed to their better selves. And that's why, for the first time in 30 years, it happened as a bipartisan deal.

We created the first White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention, which I lead and has now invested $1 USD billion to hire mental health — (applause) — mental health counselors in public schools to help heal the mental trauma of gun violence.

And, Philadelphia, in all of our work, the President has been guided by a fundamental belief: We work for you, the American people — (applause) — not the special interests, not the billionaires or the big corporations, but the people.

And in November, all the victories we have won and everything we fight for every day is on the line.

You know, Donald Trump once asked Black Americans — I'm going to quote, excuse the language — "What the hell do you have to lose from a Trump presidency?" And sadly, we all know too well.

When he was president, Donald Trump tried over and over to get rid of the Affordable Care Act and to take healthcare, then, from millions of Black Americans.

Year after year, he proposed cuts to Social Security and Medicare so that so many of our seniors would be deprived on what they rely on to live with dignity.

And then he handpicked three members of the United States Supreme Court — the court of Thurgood —

AUDIENCE: Booo —

THE VICE PRESIDENT: — with the intention that they would overturn Roe v. Wade. And as he intended, they did.

And today, one in three women and more than half of Black women of reproductive age live in a state with an abortion ban — a Trump abortion ban. And if he wins a second term, I promise you: He's going to go even further.

So, all of this is to say, who sits in the White House matters. It matters for — (applause) — it matters for the people of America and for people around the world.

As vice president, I've now met with over 150 world leaders: presidents, prime ministers, chancellors, and kings. And I cannot tell you how many times one of those leaders has pulled me aside and talked about how much the world relies on us and on Joe Biden's leadership — (applause) — his defense of democracy, his commitment to the ideals of freedom and liberty and equality, and his willingness to fight for these ideals.

And as the people of Pennsylvania know, our president does not only know how to fight, he knows how to win. (Applause.)

We beat Donald Trump once, and we going to beat him again. (Applause.)

And now it is my honor to introduce our President, Joe Biden. (Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: Hello, Philadelphia! (Applause.)

AUDIENCE: Four more years! Four more years! Four more years!

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you.

AUDIENCE: Four more years! Four more years! Four more years!

THE PRESIDENT: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

It's good — it's good to be —

AUDIENCE: Four more years! Four more years! Four more years!

THE PRESIDENT: (Laughs.) It's good to be almost home. (Applause.) I just live down the road a little bit.

Thank you, Kamala, for your partnership. And it is a partnership. And how about another round of applause for our great Vice President. Isn't she something else? (Applause.)

It's great to see so many friends, including my fellow Scrantonian Senator Bobby Casey. Bobby, where are — where are you? (Applause.) There you are. There you are.

Mayor Parker; Lieutenant Governor Davis — (applause); and Chair of the Congressional Black Caucus, Steve Horsford — (applause); and members of the CBC who are here tonight, I'm a — if I introduced everybody, I'll be here all night.

But, look, while he couldn't be here, we're thinking of our dear friend Congressman Dwight Evans. He's recovering. And he's going to recover. He's doing well. (Applause.)

And joining us are so many state and local officials from across the country, including a guy for my father's hometown, where he was born, Baltimore, Maryland. They say it down in Baltimore, not Baltimore. (Pronounced in an accent.) I want to — I want to introduce you to the mayor of — the mayor — the governor of the great state of Maryland. Where are you, Gov? (Applause.)

In case you haven't noticed, he looks like he can still play too. (Laughter.) It's great to be with you, Gov.

Civil rights and community leaders from all across the country.

Folks, if anyone wothers — wonders whether their vote matters, remember this: Because Black America voted in 2020, I'm —

Please, have — have a seat, if you can, if you have a seat.

Because Black Americans voted, Kamala and I are President and Vice President of the United States — because of you. That's not hyperbole. Because you voted, Donald Trump is a defeated former president. (Applause.)

And with your vote — with your vote in 2024, we're going to make Donald Trump a loser again. (Applause.)

In 2020 and throughout my career — I know a lot of Philadelphians know this because I got so much help when I was running for the Senate in Delaware from Philly — Black voters placed enormous faith in me. I've tried to do my best to honor that trust, staying true to the value set that we share — it got me involved as a kid in the first place: Everyone is entitled to be treated with dignity and respect, faith and family are everything, and we leave no one behind. (Applause.)

But, folks, I know it's natural to wonder if democracy — the democracy you hear about actually works for you. When justice is denied, how can it be working for you? When promises are broken, how can it be working for you? When you have to be 10 times better than everyone else to get the same shot, how can it be working for you?

I get it. And I know there's a lot of misinformation out there. So, I came today to speak the truth — (applause) — the truth about promises made and promises kept.

Do you remember when the pandemic hit — when 20 million people were out of work, when businesses and schools shut down, emergency rooms were overwhelmed, and Black folks were hit harder than anyone? When Trump was president, he said — and he said this — he took responsibility for none of it — said, "It's none of my responsibility."

When I came into office, I promised we'd do everything we can to get us through that pandemic. And that's what we did. That, folks, was a promise made and a promise kept. (Applause.)

I promised to put racial equality at the center of everything I do because I vowed I would have an administration that looked like America. Because you voted, we're invested more money than ever in the Black families and communities. A promise made and a promise kept.

I promised we'd start to reconnect Black and brown and overlooked neighborhoods cut off by highways in the ‘60s and decades of disinvestment as a consequence of it, including here in Philly. But we're — changed that with the Recovery Act of — with the — in the — right now you see all the construction going on on the highways around here. A promise made and a promise kept. (Applause.)

Look, I said I'd remove every lead pipe in America so every child can drink clean water without fear of brain damage. We're doing it. A promise made and a promise kept. (Applause.)

I promised we'd also take the most significant action on environmental justice ever to remove the legacy of pollution that smothers fence-line communities, because every child, every American deserves to breathe clean and fresh air. We're doing it. A promise made and a promise kept. (Applause.)

I promised to access affordable high-speed Internet because now Internet is just as important as it was in the days of Franklin Roosevelt — electricity was generations ago. We're delivering now because no child should have to do their homework at McDonald's when things are shut down, sit in the parking lot with their parent to get it done. Another promise made and another promise kept.

I promised to protect your healthcare. I protected and expanded the Affordable Healthcare Act that was Obamacare — is still Obamacare — (applause) — saving — saving millions of Americans an additional $800 USD a year in premiums.

And, folks, the Affordable Care Act is still a big deal. (Applause.)

As Kamala just explained, senators with — debated this, but we finally got it done — we debated — seniors with diabetes are now paying $35 USD for insulin instead of $400. USD I'm determined to make that apply to every American, not just seniors, in the second term. (Applause.)

We're capping — the bill we've already passed, we capped total out-of-pocket costs for drugs for seniors beginning next year at $2,000 USD a year total, exclud- — including cancer drugs that cost $10 USD-, $12 USD-, $14,000 USD a year. You pay no more than $2,000 USD a year. (Applause.) A promise made and a promise kept.

And, by the way, it not only saves people money, it saves the taxpayers — guess what? — $160 USD billion cut in the def- — because Medicare doesn't have to pay those exorbitant prices. (Applause.)

Folks, one of the reasons I got started and won the first time and subsequent times in Delaware is because of the best HBCU in America, Delaware State. (Applause.) Kamala — Kamala says it's some school down in Washington. (Laughter.)

Anyway, HBCUs are incredible institutions, but they don't have the same endowments as other universities to fund research centers and do so much more. Because you voted, I kept my commitment, and we're investing $16 USD billion — (applause) — the most ever in the history of America — $16 USD billion. It will grow America. It will save America money. A promise made and a promise kept.

I'm keeping my promises that no one should be in jail merely for using or possessing marijuana. (Applause.) I pardoned thousands of people incarcerated for the mere possession of marijuana — thousands. A promise made and a promise kept. And for — their records should be expunged as well, I might add. (Applause.)

Folks, it wasn't easy to get a lot of this done. In fact, obstacles every step of the way, we faced. For example, Senate Republicans blocked the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act. But it didn't stop me from signing a historic executive order requiring key elements of that bill for federal enforcement. That is banning choke holds, greatly restricting no-knock warrants, creating databases for police misconduct, and so much more. (Applause.) But we're still — and we did it with the support of George Floyd's family, and we're going to finally get it all done. A promise made and a promise kept.

I promised we'd beat the NRA. And we did. (Applause.) As Kamala mentioned, I signed the most significant gun safety law in nearly 30 years. A promise made and a promise kept.

And, by the way, I'm going to go back and once again ban assault weapons in America. (Applause.) I did it once; I'll do it again.

The Supreme Court blocked me from relieving student debt, but they didn't stop me.

So far, I've relieved student debt for nearly 5 million Americans — (applause) — a significant number are Black borrowers — so you can chase your dreams, start a family, buy a first home, start a business, and so much more.

And guess what? It grows the economy. It strengthens the economy.

I'm going to keep it going. A promise made is a promise kept.

But we're — speaking of the —

AUDIENCE MEMBER: (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT: — speaking of the courts, because you voted, I was able to keep my commitment to appoint the first Black woman on the United States Supreme Court — (applause) — Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson. A promise made and a promise kept.

And I appointed more Black women to the federal circuit courts than every other president in American history combined. (Applause.) Every single president combined.

And overall, we've appointed 200 Black judges to the federal — I mean, judges to the federal bench.

And guess what? The next president — they're going to be able to appoint a couple of justices, and I'll be damned if they're not going to — (applause) —

Look, if, in fact, we're able to change some of the justices when they retire and put in re- — really progressive judges like we've always had, tell me that won't change your life when jus- — Trump justices are already gutting voting rights, overturning Roe, decimating affirmative action, and so much more. Are we going to let that happen? We can't.

AUDIENCE: Noo —

THE PRESIDENT: No, we — we really can't.

Now, let's talk about Trump's MAGA lies. I don't have an hour, but (inaudible) it. (Laughter.)

Trump takes credit for sending all the pandemic relief checks alone. It's a lie. The truth is the Congressional Black Caucus got that money passed. (Applause.)

And when Kamala and I came to office, with the help of the CBC, passed legislation to deliver more checks in the pockets to millions of Americans, including Black Americans — $1,400 USD checks from the American Rescue Plan we passed, and then $300 USD a month per child per family through the Child Tax Credit, which cut child poverty in half for Black families. (Applause.) And I'm going to get it reinstated in the second term.

Folks, Trump continues to lie by saying Black unemployment was at a record low on his watch. The fact is the record low unemployment happened on my watch, and we're going to keep it going. (Applause.)

Black small businesses are starting up at a faster rate in 30 years because of what we've done. The racial wea- — wealth gap is the lowest it's been in 20 years because of our efforts. A promise made and a promise kept.

I announced signif- — the most significant housing plan in 50 years that includes first-time homebuyer's tax credit, building millions of affordable housing to bring rents down. New data shows a 40 percent cut in the gap between home appraisals in majority white communities versus those of color — in communities of color.

You know, the same exact builder on av- — either — on either side of 95, build the same houses — if it's a Black community, it's lower — the value, from the very day it's built, ends up being lower than the exact same house across the highway in the white community.

We're doing everything we can to right that wrong.

And guess what? We're talking on corporate greed — (applause) — to bring down the price of gas, food, and rent; eliminating junk fees. Instead of getting charged 35 bucks for an overdraft, it's $3 USD now, not $35. USD (Applause.)

The bottom line is we've invested more in Black America than any previous administration in history has. We're opening more doors for economic opportunity, including access to capital, entrepreneurship, workforce training so you can build a life of financial freedom and create generational wealth, all — all while being the providers and leaders of your families and community. Another promise made and a promise kept.

We're just getting started. In a second term, we want to keep it going to level the playing field by making the wealthy begin to pay their fair tax. (Applause.) It ain't even close.

I said I'd not increase the tax of anybody making less than $400,000 USD a year. Well, guess who — how much — guess how much the average federal tax rate is for a billionaire? We've got a thousand of them. 8.3 percent. 8.3 percent. It's outrageous. If the billionaires only had to pay 25 percent, it would raise 40 — $400 USD billion. We'd be able to do everything we're doing now and still reduce the debt.

Look, billionaires pay their fair share, not only would it sa- — not only reduce the deficit, but it could provide childcare, eldercare, paid leave, and so much more to change the lives of millions of Americans, as well as grow our economy.

But, folks, all progress, all freedom, all opportunities are at risk. Trump is trying to make the country forget just how dark and unsettling things were when he was president. But we'll never forget lying around and him — how he and — and us — him — him lying around, actually. (Laughter.) And lying about how serious the pandemic was and say he had no responsibility for it. And telling Americans, "Just inject a little bleach." Remember that?

The way he's acting, I think he injected a hell of a lot of bleach in himself. (Laughter.)

Trump —

AUDIENCE MEMBER: (Inaudible.)

THE PRESIDENT: (Laughs.) You got it, kid. (Laughter.)

Trump and his MAGA extremists want to give power back to Big Pharma to char- — continue to charge exorbitant fees. Trump is still determined, in his own words, quote, to "terminate" the Affordable Care Act, which would deny 3 million Black Americans health insurance, deny protections for preexisting conditions for millions more.

During his presidency, Trump enacted a $2 USD trillion tax cut overwhelmingly benefitting the very wealthy and the biggest corporations and exploded the federal deficit. He racked up more federal debt than any president did in any presidential term in history. Tell me about the Republicans and balancing budgets. And now he wants to do it again.

At the same time, he is determined to cut Social Security and Medicare.

AUDIENCE: Booo —

THE PRESIDENT: I have a better idea: Let's protect Social Security and Medicare and make the very wealthy begin to pay for it. (Applause.)

As Kamala said, Trump brags about gutting Roe v. Wade — standing there, "I did this" — while he openly encourages voter suppression and election subversion.

Folks, reelect Kamala and me and a Democratic Congress, and I will sign the John Lewis Voting Right Act and the Freedom to Vote Act tomorrow — (applause) — and we will make Roe v. Wade the law of the land again. (Applause.) It's within our power to do this.

MAGA extremists ban books. Did you ever think — if you're anybody over 30 years old — you'd go through a period where we're banning books in America? They're trying to erase Black history. We're going to write Black history, because it's American history. (Applause.) It's American history.

Together, we make history, not erase it.

To me, the values of diversity, equality, inclusion are literally — and this is not kidding — the core strengths of America. That's why I'm proud to have the most diverse administration in history that taps into the full talents of our country. And it starts at the top with the Vice President.

On Memorial Day, I proudly stood with a Black man — the highest order — the first Black Secretary of Defense; second Black Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff; Black woman heads of military units who are overseeing the most diverse, strongest fighting force in the history of the world. (Applause.)

And, folks, the threat that Trump poses is greater in his second term than his first. It's clear that when he lost in 2020, something literally snapped in this guy. No, I'm serious. That's why January 6th happened, when he unleashed an insurrection.

Now, he's running again, and he's clearly unhinged. He calls the insurrectionists who stormed the Capitol "patriots" — "patriots." If reelected, he wants to pardon, quote, "every one" of them.

AUDIENCE: Booo —

THE PRESIDENT: Let me ask you, what do you think he would've done on January the 6th if Black Americans had stormed it — think about this: What do you think would have happened if Black Americans had stormed the Capitol? I don't think he'd be talking about pardons.

This is the same guy who wanted to tear gas you as you peacefully protested George Floyd's murder. The same guy who still calls the Central Park Five "guilty," even though they were exonerated.

He's that landlord who denies housing applications because of the color of your skin.

He's that guy who won't say "Black lives matter" and invokes neo-Nazi, Third Reich terms.

And we all remember Trump is the same guy who unleashed birthism — the birtherism lie against Barack.

And then Trump tells you he's the greatest president — I love this one. He says he's the greatest president for Bl- — Black people in the history of America, including more than Abraham Lincoln. (Makes sign of the cross.)

AUDIENCE: Booo —

THE PRESIDENT: I mean, can you fathom that? Where in the hell — (applause) — like I said, I think he injected too much of that bleach in his skin — into his brain. (Laughter.) I think it affected his brain.

Some lies are so foolish that you don't have to say anything about them at all.

Maya Angelou said, "When someone shows you who they are" —

AUDIENCE: Believe them!

THE PRESIDENT: — "believe them the first time." You got it, kid. (Laughter.) You got it.

I've shown you who I am, and Trump has shown you who he is. And today, Donald Trump is pandering and peddling lies and stereotypes for your votes so he can win for himself, not for you.

Well, Donald Trump, I have a message for you: Not in our house and not on our watch. (Applause.)

Let me close with this. Let me close with this. And, folks, I know we have a lot more to do. When the full promise of America is not available to every person in this country regardless of race, we've got work to do. But let's not lose sight of how far we've come. And the reason is you.

The stakes in this election couldn't be higher. What's at stake is nothing less than the fundamental ideal of America — it defines America: that we're all created equal, endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights, and should be treated that way throughout our lives. We've never lived up to it, but we've never, ever before completely walked away from it, either.

And I'll be damned if I'm going to let Donald Trump be the reason we stopped being America. (Applause.)

I'll be damned if I'm going to let Donald Trump — (applause) — we're not going to let Donald Trump turn America into a place that doesn't believe in honesty, decency, and treating people with respect. And I'll be damned if I'm going to let Donald Trump turn America into a place filled with anger and resentment and hate. (Applause.)

Folks, America has always been a place where we've worked toward a more perfect Union, where those who were excluded in the past are included in the promise in the country today. I still believe that. I'm still optimistic. But I need you.

So, my question for you is simple — a simple one: Are you with me?

AUDIENCE: Yes! (Applause.)

THE PRESIDENT: Talk to your family.

AUDIENCE: Four more years! Four more years! Four more years!

THE PRESIDENT: Spread the word.

AUDIENCE: Four more years! Four more years! Four more years!

THE PRESIDENT: As the gospel song goes, "We've come too far from where we started. Nobody told me the road would be easy. I don't believe He brought me this far, though, to leave me." (Applause.)

My fellow Americans, I don't think the good Lord brought us this far to leave us behind. We just have to remember who we are. We're the United States of America, and there is nothing — nothing, nothing — beyond our capacity when we act together.

God bless you all. And may God protect our troops. (Applause.)

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Every time — every time I walked out of my Grandfather Finnegan's house up in Scranton, he'd yell, "Joey, keep the faith." And my grandmother would yell, "No, Joey, spread it."

Go spread the faith. (Applause.)"

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Nine pound round01 Aug 2024 12:53 p.m. PST

This is the same Joe Biden who started his Senate career by cozying up to Senator James O. Eastland of Mississippi, the Senate's most notorious segregationist, in hopes of securing a seat on the Judiciary Committee.

Nine pound round01 Aug 2024 2:15 p.m. PST

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Just a reminder: this is what the regime stands for.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2024 3:00 p.m. PST

Nine, yes I think being prominently in the Olympics, has made this more apparent to those who have not been paying attention prior to this. Maybe finally wiser heads will prevail.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2024 5:15 p.m. PST

Yes the media is very skewed in the reporting on anyone Conservative …

Nine pound round01 Aug 2024 6:52 p.m. PST

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And this man, who murdered thousands of people, is going to get a plea bargain, which will presumably leave the DOJ time to focus on the truly important things, like prosecuting the Jan 6 rioters.

As the liberals used to say in my childhood: "I love my country, but I fear its government."

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2024 6:22 a.m. PST

3 escaped the death penalty! What!?? There aren't 72 virgins any longer?

I'm sure all those who died on 911 wish they could have had their deaths commuted as well.

Nine pound round02 Aug 2024 6:38 a.m. PST

Assuming the murderous b******s are in Hell where they belong, I'm sure they probably do.

I'm simultaneously delighted that the Israelis offed a guy who was involved in the Beirut bombing, and dismayed that he lived so long. Had we made it our business to hunt down the perps in the early 1980s (admittedly a more difficult task than today), and widely publicize their deaths, would there ever have been a 9/11?

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2024 4:33 p.m. PST

AFAIK murder has no statute of limitations.

Again the only good islamic terrorist is a dead one …

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2024 5:03 p.m. PST

"According to the Palm Beach Post, Zijie Li, 38, of El Monte, California, claimed that he had documents that tie his home country's government to the July 13 assassination attempt on Trump during his rally in Butler, Pennsylvania."

The phone of Thomas Matthew Crooks does have encrypted information that they still have not been able to break. Is any of this real? Connected? Who knows, but we are at 3 weeks now and … nothing. Are they hoping attention spans are short and everyone moves on? Like the manifesto of the TS Tennessee school shooter.

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35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2024 6:10 p.m. PST

Well I assume the backlash got too bad.

72 * 3 virgins are shaking in fear again.

Subject: Biden administration makes huge U-turn in plea deal offer for 9/11 'mastermind' that sparked outrage | Daily Mail Online


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Nine pound round02 Aug 2024 6:14 p.m. PST

Must've polled really badly.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP03 Aug 2024 5:29 a.m. PST

Think about this a little more closely about the original plea deal.

Austin was supposedly gone when the decision was made. It was made supposedly by a lower level general! The President supposedly was not involved. Austin comes back, drops the deal and fires the lower level general.

Who is making these decisions!? Are we supposed to believe a low level general did this on his own? I CAN believe the president was not involved. But who made it? The VP? Obama? Both?

Who is in charge in this country and making the decisions?

Nine pound round03 Aug 2024 6:51 a.m. PST

I have a buddy who can tell you some stories about Austin as a battalion commander; I saw him as a Division G-3, and he was pretty clearly getting run by the majors around him. He was not considered one of the bright minds of his generation of generals, and it has always been a mystery to me why he rose farther than, say, Leo Brooks (who commanded at about the same time, and was as much like a Denzel Washington character brought to life as it's possible to imagine- just an inspirational guy).

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP03 Aug 2024 6:55 a.m. PST

What were the politics of Leo Brooks? Might be the answer.

Nine pound round03 Aug 2024 7:59 a.m. PST

I never knew him to have any- which may itself be explanatory.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2024 11:05 a.m. PST

Subject: Texas woman charged with threats against former president Trump, DC police say


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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2024 12:30 p.m. PST

I have a buddy who can tell you some stories about Austin as a battalion commander; I saw him as a Division G-3, and he was pretty clearly getting run by the majors around him. He was not considered one of the bright minds of his generation of generals, and it has always been a mystery to me why he rose farther than,
I have heard similar. I was afraid he was a DEI hire. That seems to be SOP with the new US top leadership. Along with IIRC the new Cdr of the JCS, IIRC.

Of course, GEN Milley was pretty much awarded, etc. most of the badge, tab, etc., the US Army has. But he drank the koolaid and went somewhat woke, progressive, DEI, CRT, etc.

As far as taking away the dead penalty for those 3 radical islamic terrorists murders. Yes, some of the radical islamists may consider them martyrs. But like with UBL Suleimani, al Bagdadi, etc. and the 3 islamic terrorists the IDF just killed off. There has to be some punitives for their actions. Responsible for some many deaths, etc.

And of course payback is a muth'a … Mess with the bull you get the horns.

Something we learned in the Army. Enemy leadership are priority targets.

What is so hard to understand that these 3 islamic terrorists should be executed ? As the US has done to so many others islamic terrorists' leaders, etc. The GWoT is far from over.

Who is in charge in this country and making the decisions?
Don't get me started … I'll assuredly get sent to the Dog Haus/Cooler … ⚾

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2024 2:58 p.m. PST

I can think of some places.. but Rushmore would not be one of them. 😉

Maybe they should really work on term limits in the Congress. 🙂

Subject: Nancy Pelosi suggests adding Biden to Mount Rushmore: 'Such a consequential president'


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Nine pound round04 Aug 2024 4:40 p.m. PST

Ah, the Boomers: the narcissistic gift that never stops giving (the generation that came up with the idea of naming everything possible after politicians who aren't even decently dead yet).

When you combine Baltimore machine politics and what Tony Soprano characterized as "California b******t," the product is not Sam Rayburn with breast implants.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2024 9:17 a.m. PST

Nancy Pelosi suggests adding Biden to Mount Rushmore: 'Such a consequential president'
Unbelievable ! It's like many are reading a different book or watching a different movie. Reminds me of Superman Comic's Bizzaro World !!!!

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2024 10:03 a.m. PST

Legion.. you are living "1984". 😉

Case in point

Subject: Tulsi Gabbard 🌺 on X: "MSNBC is again EXPOSED as a propaganda machine for the Democrat Elite, and how they will brazenly try to deceive the American people. One part of the video @joerogan was talking about Kamala; on another part of the video, he was talking about me. MSNBC combined it together to t.co/E8701iZ8dh / X


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Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2024 2:18 p.m. PST

35th, it's not MSNBC, it's the whole gang of media outlets. Tulsi is full of it.. Fox rates near the bottom as a trusted news source nationally. So does HuffPost, Brietbart, Aljezeera, MSNBC is not that far above them. Fox paid 800 million in a settlement to avoid going to trial over lies about election fraud. Do you think the Murdochs would shell out a massive, historic amount like that if they were innocent? They could not afford to be exposed like that, so they settled.

But they all are manipulating us and bear a lot of responsibility for making us crazy. The most trusted media outlet? The Weather Channel! Followed by the BBC, not even American. PBS and the WSJ tied for third.

Nine pound round05 Aug 2024 2:25 p.m. PST

Legion's not the only one, but some people seem to be enjoying it more than others.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2024 2:44 p.m. PST

Tort I guess don't trust any, that is the real answer. NPR was exposed this year, by its own employee. Not that it was ever a surprise.

This is how I look at it, the MSM lied to us about Russian Collusion, the Hunter Biden Laptop, Pee tapes, spying on Trumps campaign in 2016, Covid vaccines, wet market origin, masks working, lockdowns working, Hillary and her computer, the President NOT being conective challenged… I'll skip the long long list. But the one thing they have not lied to us about is election fraud? 🤔

I'll have to say.. I'm extremely skeptical. 🧐

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2024 2:48 p.m. PST

Nine, no I did not mean just Legion. We are all living in "1984". Maybe this is Orwell's unpublished sequel, "2024".😔

Nine pound round05 Aug 2024 4:08 p.m. PST

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Apparently our resident apologist for the donks isn't the only one who thinks "Tulsi's full of it."

dogtail05 Aug 2024 4:22 p.m. PST

This thread is really weird

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2024 4:40 p.m. PST

Nine I have seen that on the web on other news sites as well.

SBminisguy05 Aug 2024 5:04 p.m. PST

Back on topic! Congressman Jamie Raskin (D) just said that if Trump wins the 2024 Election the Democrats must immediately invoke Sec. 3 of the 14th Amendment (claiming Trump is an insurrectionist) to prevent Trump from taking office -- even if it will result in a civil war.

"…It's going to be up to *us* on January 6 2025 to tell the rampaging Trump mobs that he's disqualified, then we need bodygaurds and it's Civil War conditions…"

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35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2024 5:21 p.m. PST

SB saw that. As I always say; they accuse you of doing what they are doing, or planning on doing.

Interestingly, I know a soldier who told me his unit was placed on readiness for deployment for January 6th , 2 months ago.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2024 5:59 p.m. PST

Weird! The new buzz word…

I apologize for everything. I am not a "donk", but it is one of the kinder things you have said about me. Er..really sorry…

Maybe Tulsi is full of it, but right in this case. I hope people get so sick of all of the lies that they can't watch any of outlets without hurling.

Raskin is full of it!!!! What is the evidence? Trump will never stand trial again. How can you invoke the insurrection clause without a conviction? And you could never get one, all the witnesses would die of old age first. And…Trump's immune. So no, this will not happen.

Tortorella Supporting Member of TMP05 Aug 2024 6:01 p.m. PST

Yes 35th, this is highly ironic, coming from Raskin.

SBminisguy06 Aug 2024 7:22 a.m. PST

Meanwhile, China's new spaceplane is in orbit placing unknown satellites into space….it happens to look almost exactly like the American X-37B spaceplane. China stole the plans and reverse engineered it, aided by the insane misallocation of domestic security agencies away from national threats and onto "regime threats" -- political opponents, critics, pundits, journalists and activists.

SBminisguy06 Aug 2024 8:12 a.m. PST

Interesting pick -- Harris taps Goiv Walz of Minnesota as her VP pick. Walz recently referred to socialism as "being neighborly"…

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP06 Aug 2024 8:16 a.m. PST

Things like these are why so many have issues believing in the current election process. Yes this is Project Veritas, but it does not make it untrue.

Many of the things talked about are exactly what Republicans complained about in 2020 and Democrats in 2016 and Democrats when Al Gore ran.

This is NOT Republicans commenting. This is one group of Democrats who have turned against another group of Democrats. We know this is happening. Also probably The main reason Shapiro was not chosen as VP this morning

So Tammy Hall still lives!

This also shows how immigrants are being used.

Hamtramck sort of looks like little Palestine, true?


Subject: Project Veritas on X: "🚨 BREAKING: Progressive Democrats Say Muslims Used VOTER FRAUD to Secure Power in Michigan "These guys go door to door and take people's ballots. They bully them… intimidate." – August Gitschlag, Certified Michigan Elections Official "If everything's good, we can drop [the t.co/ggAxZC5CB2 / X


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Nine pound round06 Aug 2024 8:19 a.m. PST

Well, there it is: we are going to get an election where both sides offer candidates who appeal principally to their base. They're both going to spend the next couple of months trying to explain to the people in the middle of the country how extreme the other side is. One side will succeed, and will win by a margin of (probably) 52-48. For very different reasons, each side will believe that 4% margin justifies the need for fundamental change. The other side will refuse to accept it, suspecting (probably with some justification) that their opponents mean to make fundamental changes to the way the country is governed.

Nine pound round06 Aug 2024 10:44 a.m. PST

BTW, Legion- that remark about 1984 was not meant to be a criticism of you, just a riff on something 35th said.

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP06 Aug 2024 12:24 p.m. PST

This is interesting and infuriating. The same question I had, was she a DEI hire is asked at the end. And she still has a job!! 😡

Almost a month now. What has been done??

Subject: Jesse Watters on X: "BREAKING: @HawleyMO says @SecretService whistleblowers tell him that the lead agent on the Trump Butler job was NOT enforcing the normal security protocols that day and she wasn't having ID's checked that day. He describes it as a free-for-all and says as we speak, this lead t.co/g0bR55KPas / X


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35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP06 Aug 2024 1:33 p.m. PST

And another

"Asif was arrested July 12, one day prior Trump's July 13 rally in Butler, Pennsylvania, where he was shot in the ear."

Subject: Pakistani national charged with alleged plot to assassinate Donald Trump, other public officials: DOJ – ABC News


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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP06 Aug 2024 6:38 p.m. PST

Legion.. you are living "1984".
I was in the ROK in '84 & '85 … this don't look like the DMZ ? 🤔😎

Nine, no I did not mean just Legion. We are all living in "1984". Maybe this is Orwell's unpublished sequel, "2024".😔

Maybe he has a ghostwriter ? 👻 But even he may have not foreseen this much chaos, derision, madness, etc. With the tail wagging the dog … err pig ?

E.g. would anybody seriously believe there is more than 2 sexes ?

Tampons dispensers in boys' rest rooms.

Boys who want to be girls playing on girls' sports teams.

An Audry Hepburn doppelganger Trany, being used to sell beer to Blue Collar Americans ?

'nuff said …

BTW, Legion- that remark about 1984 was not meant to be a criticism of you, just a riff on something 35th said.
No I didn't think so, no harm, no foul! 👍👍

I know at times I mention Orwell's 1984 and even Animal Farm. Much is so appropriate for today more than ever.

SBminisguy07 Aug 2024 8:06 a.m. PST

So the new Harris Veep pick, Gov Tim Walz of Minnesota is mispresenting his service record and uses a rank he did not earn (Command Sgt Major). While promoted to Command Sgt Major he did not not complete the training needed to confirm that rank – yet he tells everyone he's a "retired Command Sgt Major."

He also did not retire, he quit the service when his National Guard unit was activated to go to Iraq.

The Stolen Valor site is factually dry:

To clarify, according to records, regulations and the Public Affairs Office of the Minnesota National Guard, Tim Walz did serve as a Command Sergeant Major (CSM) and is permitted to claim that he served in that capacity. However, he did not retire as a CSM because he did not meet the educational requirements to retain that rank.

While he can legitimately state that he served as a CSM, he is not a "Retired CSM" but rather a "Retired Master Sergeant" (MSG). Therefore, it is not a case of Stolen Valor, although he should not be claiming to have retired at a rank he no longer holds.

Regarding the rumors surrounding the circumstances of his retirement, I have no means of verifying those claims. I have seen various posts, some supporting these rumors and others contradicting them. My role is to verify his military record and claims based on the facts, not to engage in or propagate the political and rumor-related aspects of the situation.

Former members of his unit are less charitable…

When Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz chose to leave the military on the eve of his deployment to Iraq, Thomas Behrends went in his place.

"I needed to hit the ground running and take care of the troops — and tell them we were going to war," Behrends said of the 500 soldiers under his command. "For a guy in that position, to quit is cowardice."

Behrends, a 63-year-old farmer in Brewster, Minn., called the Democratic vice presidential candidate "a traitor" for retiring from their Minnesota National Guard unit just before their deployment to Iraq in 2005.

"When your country calls, you are supposed to run into battle — not the other way," the retired command sergeant major told The Post Tuesday. "He ran away. It's sad.

"He had the opportunity to serve his country, and said ‘Screw you' to the United States. That's not who I would pick to run for vice president."


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SBminisguy07 Aug 2024 9:00 a.m. PST

The world's on fire -- yet the current Admin's recent critical mission statement is to fight the scourge of plastic sporks!! Yes, that's right, 'cause apparently plastic cutlery is "disproportionately impacting communities with environmental justice concerns."

A sure sign of an Oligarchy, there seems to be no single unifying policy, but a series of policy tendrils belonging to each faction. So what Oligarchic Factions may be present in the US?

*Defense Industrial: Wants more wars and defense spending (e.g. Ukraine War)

*Big Pharma: Wants more public health crises and spending (e.g. recent attempts at new COVID scares, public spending on novel medical procedures related to childhood anxieties)

*Greens: Want to control all aspects of society to combat the "climate crisis" (e.g. Spork bans, energy production bans, C40 Cities program)

*Big Finance: Wants economic access and opportunities, like huge contracts to rebuild blown up countries, take advantage of economic turmoil to expand their portfolio holdings and use political access to benefit themselves and punish foes. (e.g. Blackrock contracts for Ukraine reconstruction, others buying up homes after mortgage defaults, buying farmland, rewarding Nike's allyship while crushing MyPillow for dissenting, etc.)

*BigTech: Wants to maintain tech dominance via political access and information control (e.g. special status as publishers and platforms, shielded from antitrust litigation, use private-public power to maintain monopoly like when Amazon deplatformed competitor Parler by deleting it from its server network services)

*BigLabor: Wants to expand their membership, power and reach (e.g. anti- "Gig" economy laws, resistance to things like School Choice, attacks on owner-operator truckers to force them to work for companies and Unionize, etc.)

*Globalists: Want to wrap everything up under their control with the allyship of self-interested power groups listed above (e.g. ESG and DEI programs to assert control over companies and divide the populace against itself)

What do you think?

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP07 Aug 2024 9:43 a.m. PST

"He also did not retire, he quit the service when his National Guard unit was activated to go to Iraq."

From everything I have heard and read, this is true. All I could think of was the "Sir Robin" song when one of the members of his unit was talking about him.

JD Vance did go to Iraq

"After graduating from Middletown High School, Vance joined the US Marine Corps, where he served from 2003 to 2007 as a combat correspondent, with six months in Iraq. "

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