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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian16 Nov 2023 4:23 a.m. PST

…Still, Hamas's claims of the number of Israeli vehicles destroyed appear grossly exaggerated. On Saturday, November 11, a spokesman for the Qassam Brigades claimed 160 military vehicles from the two columns that advanced from the north border of Gaza had been destroyed "totally or partially," including 25 in the 48 hours prior to the announcement…

Aljazeera: link

Fitzovich Supporting Member of TMP16 Nov 2023 4:44 a.m. PST

I suspect that all the claims are inflated by both sides. Frankly I don't believe a bit of what I am hearing out of the Middle East from either Hamas or the Israeli government.

Truth is the first victim of war…

OSCS7416 Nov 2023 5:03 a.m. PST

Exaggeration during war is old as war.

Personal logo Dentatus Sponsoring Member of TMP Fezian16 Nov 2023 5:40 a.m. PST

This is my 'totally surprised' face.

The first casualty of war…

BenFromBrooklyn16 Nov 2023 6:20 a.m. PST

US military doctrine is to understate battle damage assessments when in doubt.

That's one reason Saddam's army collapsed so quickly in Desert Storm. All the analysts were saying "substantially degraded", implying they still had a lot of fight left. Russian or Arab analysts would have proudly reported "completely destroyed".

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP16 Nov 2023 8:57 a.m. PST

Iran, islamic terrorists, Russia, North Korea and China … don't almost ever tell the truth. About anything … Some may say I'm biased …

SBminisguy16 Nov 2023 9:08 a.m. PST

a spokesman for the Qassam Brigades claimed 160 military vehicles from the two columns that advanced from the north border of Gaza had been destroyed "totally or partially,"

The real number is probably one. One tank. That's the one Merkava they disabled with an Anti-tank grenade drone-drop during their Oct 7 surprise attack. The tank they have shown in their videos over and over again. Showing the same tank knocked out by a AT grenade 150 times doesn't equal knocking out 150 tanks.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP16 Nov 2023 9:31 a.m. PST

Agreed … Hamas is only really effective against unarmed women and children …

SBminisguy16 Nov 2023 9:44 a.m. PST

I see a bunch of Hamas videos showing IED and RPG attacks on Israeli vehicles, but they all seem to end the same way -- with an explosion, and then freeze frame and screams of Allahu Akbar. So we don't know if that AFV was damaged, because a fireball bloom in freeze frame doesn't mean the armor was penetrated -- could be reactive armor going off, or even active measures detonating the RPG at close range.

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP16 Nov 2023 9:58 a.m. PST

Yes, could maybe believe it if the vehicles were loaded with women, children and the elderly. Otherwise, this is bull.

Col Durnford Supporting Member of TMP16 Nov 2023 11:26 a.m. PST

I'm sure the count includes bicycles, tricycles, and baby carriages.

cavcrazy16 Nov 2023 5:54 p.m. PST

Hold the phone, are you saying we can't trust terrorists?
What's this world coming to?

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP18 Nov 2023 5:22 p.m. PST

"Hamas claims inflated"

NO WAY!!!!!!!

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP19 Nov 2023 6:31 p.m. PST

I know Hamas, Iran, Russia, North Korea and China lie … pretty much about anything and everything. I could be wrong … wait … no I'm not !

14Bore21 Nov 2023 10:11 a.m. PST

Interesting analysis if you want

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