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Paskal Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2023 7:45 a.m. PST

Hello everyone,

Did the Bärenmützen or Bearskin of the Austro-Hungarian grenadiers evolve during the wars of the Revolution and the Empire?

Was this Bärenmützen or Bearskin identical for the "German" and "Hungarian" grenadiers?

Decebalus31 Oct 2023 10:03 a.m. PST

No, the bearskins were used before.

Yes, the bearskins were the same for german and for hungarian regiments.

(BTW the state was called Austrian Empire since 1806. Austrian-Hungary was created 1867, so much later.)

Eumelus Supporting Member of TMP31 Oct 2023 10:41 a.m. PST

According to David Hollins' "Warrior" series book on the Austrian infantry, it was in 1801 that the front peak was added to the grenadier bearskins. Also at some point in the wars didn't the color of the rear bag change from regimental facing to yellow (with white lace) for all regiments, regardless of facings?

Glengarry531 Oct 2023 5:05 p.m. PST

Another curious detail, also according to Hollins, the fur of the grenadier cap was traditionally brushed "up" (similar to a fright wig from an old silent movie) but in the latter part of the Napoleonic wars, around 1811 or 1813, the fur was brushed "down" to acquire a more conventional bearskin appearance. As far as I know no miniature manufacturers have picked up on this.

Glengarry531 Oct 2023 6:22 p.m. PST

Oh, I discovered the Perrys do make "1811 bearskin" Austrian grenadiers!

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP01 Nov 2023 3:45 a.m. PST

@Decebalus

Yes I knew that bearskins were used before among the grenadiers of this empire.

@Eumelus

Among many other books I am also waiting for "Warrior" by David Hollins on the Austrian infantry, in the meantime I am going to TMP where we find great information like the one you wrote "it was in 1801 that the front visor was added to the grenadiers' bear skins" or this one, "hasn't the color of the rear bag changed from the regimental covering to yellow (with white lace) for all regiments, regardless of the coverings", are you talking about the Bärenmützen bag?

@Glengarry5

Another curious detail, but great for a purist like me, but with my little 25mm MiniFigs it's not likely to be very visible!

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