"ARVN Military Police" Topic

Now here is an unusual subject in 28mm from Gringos40. An ARVN MP carrying a shotgun painted by Andy Singleton. I think we may see more similar work soon.

Arvn are on my to do list and this just fans the flames.

Where are the white mice? H

Usually seeing the big "QC" on the helmet was public notice to be ready for a shakedown or to have a relative disappeared for a while.

Very nice on the cloud pattern. This was actually used pretty universally by the 'white mice' or 'QC' but also in limited use by other ARVN troops as well as being provided to forces in Laos. Although most people associate the cam pattern with the ARVN MPs.

This is not white mice. This is National Police Field Force. Totally different. No QC on any photos I have seen of these folks.

They are shown in the Osprey book on ARVN.

I do Vietnam in 20mm and have a platoon of these.

Tom

Jeez Guys it was a light hearted comment. I was there. I did not see that many ARVN (not counting ruff-puffs) or white mice but I did see them. H

A subject of which I know nowt, but I am increasingly interested. I tried reading up on White Mice QC (were they civilian?) and National Police Field Force (MP?) but am lost as to the distinction (is it anything more than the rig they are wearing?). For example;

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Grateful for any info.

National Field Police were essentially light infantry in platoon to company strength but without the support weapons.

Chaps
these troops were a fascinating addition to the ARVN army and were often paired up with the Elite paratrooper battalions..of even more interest were the varied weapons they used..the pick of the crop sometimes..often WW2 very usuable weapons.. brief description below…..
The CSDC was lightly armed by military standards, but heavily armed by conventional police standards. Initially, most of its weaponry was surplus World War II/Korean War-vintage – the standard issue weapon was the heavy M1 Garand semi-automatic rifle, complemented by M1/M2 carbines, M3 and Thompson submachine guns and BAR light machine guns. From 1969, rifles, carbines and submachine guns began to be replaced by the M16 Rifle and although the latter became the CSDC's primary weapon, it never displaced entirely the earlier weaponry.[14] In addition, each platoon had an M79 Grenade Launcher[15] and a .30 caliber medium machine-gun. Twenty-four shotguns were available in the company weapons pool. The Field Police had no crew-served weapon systems such as mortars or any other indirect fire weapons.

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Ged
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Ged
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For a MP unit circa 1968 how wrong would it be to use late WW2 US figures? My wife has a company of Ged's Gringo40s so (for example) Warlord WW2 USMC would be just a tad smaller and there would not be a clash with having 2 different sizes of M16 since they would have Garands and M3s.Any thoughts folks?

Little guys, dwarfed by their weapons and, especially helmets, with very tight tailored pants/overalls is my idea of typical ARVN. MPs might be a more select bunch and I imagine your figures would work fine. Do they have helmet covers though?

Found some old Vietnam US figures a bit smaller than Gringos, so they'll do nicely.

The snag is this…and you may well be too sensible to give a damn.

To look like low grade ARVN they must have helmets too big for them and all of their kit must be the same size as the enormous soldiers of US forces next to them. Smaller scale US soldiers have smaller helmets and M16s of course and they do not have those daft skinny trousers that was the "look" of ARVN.

Frankly I do not think any maker has quite captured what I mean here, however good are Empress or Gringos 40. They are all muscular elite troops, not the 90% of the locals enlisted south of the DMZ (those on the good guys' side that is of course)

Just so. I'm not really convinced by any of the products available, so we'll use what we've got. I suspect if they were made with the super-skinny legs of real life they would be very top-heavy and very fragile.