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jgawne06 Jul 2023 2:17 p.m. PST

I've some what outspoken in a few errors in their 20th cent digital figures where I know the subject very well. They just released some WW2 German mountain troops, and although I have actually owned a reasonable amount of original gebeirgs items in the past, I am not going to claim to be an expert.

So look at this and tell me- Was there some general issue tongue belt buckle the mountain troops had- As all I recall seeing was the standard Gott Mit Uns buckle.

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and I don't mean the double tongued officers open buckle. Yes, officers wore that. But didn't the standard enlisted me wear the standard Wehrmacht buckle?

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP06 Jul 2023 10:21 p.m. PST

I have seen a few prints of Geberigsgajer with an open tongue buckle but the vast majority have the Gott Mit Uns standard Wehrmacht buckle

Artilleryman06 Jul 2023 10:58 p.m. PST

As far as my sources go, the solid standard buckle for enlisted men was used. An open-tongued buckle was an aberration or had been 'proffed' from somewhere.

jgawne07 Jul 2023 5:59 a.m. PST

That's what I thought. They did the same thing with WW2 US Sailors- put them in the same the same buckle, when issue was the typical belt with roller buckle.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP07 Jul 2023 9:11 a.m. PST

Can you seriously tell if a belt buckle is incorrect? Maybe at 54mm!

jgawne07 Jul 2023 10:20 a.m. PST

actually, yes. Yes you can.
And if you scale them up it gets even more noticeable.

It just makes me wonder what errors they make on figures that I am not knowledgeable about.

Artilleryman07 Jul 2023 11:02 p.m. PST

It is a bit like watching historical films. 'If they got that so wrong, what else did they not get right?'

Martin Rapier11 Jul 2023 10:21 a.m. PST

My eyesight may not be what it used to be, but they all look like they've got standard Heer belt buckles to me. The engraving at each end might be a bit deep as the belt tends to lie flush to the buckle at the end away from the buckle hooks.

The main thing which would put me off is that they are all in pullover smocks instead of the jazzy button up GJ jacket. I used to re-enact GJ.

QUATERMASS17 Jul 2023 3:09 p.m. PST

Both tongue belt buckle and the Gott Mit Uns standard Wehrmacht buckle are correct!

German webbing was made mainly by relatively small company's and although the general design was uniform their would be variations from company to company, batch to batch.

Their would even be variation in a unit what with replacement's and all
Check out the link below the main picture and the first related image are taken at the same time same place same rucksack different people different colour belts different buckles

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QUATERMASS18 Jul 2023 1:35 a.m. PST

Okay I've consulted the books
and while it doesn't expressly say so,reading between the lines the tongue belt buckle with red leather stap was worn by officer's
And
The Gott Mit Uns standard Wehrmacht buckle is for NCO's and enlisted men.

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