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Whirlwind ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 17 Jun 2023 10:29 a.m. PST |
I have figures sufficient for 12 units of Dutch infantry for the WSS; entirely based on the colourfulness/unusualness of the uniforms which units should I pick? |
JimDuncanUK | 17 Jun 2023 1:56 p.m. PST |
You'll be hard pushed to find 12 units which are not in grey but grey is fine when its well painted. link |
Steamingdave2 | 17 Jun 2023 3:05 p.m. PST |
Foot guards in Blue, several regiments in red and even those in grey often had officers, sergeants and musicians in coloured coats. The Hall book/CD shows details, but rather expensive. I'll try and look through my copy and see if there are any particularly interesting uniforms. |
Unlucky General ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 17 Jun 2023 4:57 p.m. PST |
Most regiments were in grey with coloured cuffs or variously coloured hose and waistcoats; however, several had red coats, blue coats and white coats. |
Whirlwind ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 18 Jun 2023 4:49 a.m. PST |
Thanks very much all, very useful, I appreciate it. @Steamingdave2, that would be very kind, thanks. Not quite the same question, but would be quite interested in knowing what the uniforms for some of the Walloon and Huguenot regiments might be. |
Steamingdave2 | 18 Jun 2023 7:36 a.m. PST |
OK. Sorry for delay, Father's Day and had my daughter and grandsons here (with a nice bottle of Talisker,), so only just got to the files. Found the following. Foot Guards blue, with red facings ( were orange earlier) Swansbek/Palm blue, yellow facings Savorin red, blue facings Fagel red, yellow facings Van Els red , white facings Holstein Beck red, blue facings Keurprinz Van brandenburg Preussen blue, red facings, Francois de Vigouse Blue, red facings ( musicians in mid green with red facings Some of the Scot's brigade seemed to have retained red coats eg Borthwick's and Lauder'syellow facings Several Swiss regiments in Dutch service were in blue coats, usually with red facings but different colours of breeches Lot of the above from Hall. C S Grant (Armies and Uniforms of Marlborough's Wars, Vol 1) Gives some others eg Van Keppel, red and yellow, Van Welderen blue, faced blue In some cases information is given specifically for the 1702 to 1720 period. There seems to be more for the late 1600s I.e at end of War of League of Augsburg and some of those uniforms may have been retained in early years of the WSS, but most regiments do seem to be in " white", "Pearl grey", "grey" during WSS. |
Steamingdave2 | 18 Jun 2023 7:51 a.m. PST |
I did a couple of the Hanover regiments for mine. De Luc in white with green facings and St Paul in red with yellow facings and yellow waistcoats Will see what I have in Walloon regiments, got a couple of books that may have info., Kronskaf has this on French Walloon regiments. link And there was this TMP thread of Dutch Walloon TMP link Hall shows following: Doppelstein in blue, faced red, drummers in red, faced and laced white. The plate is for 1715+and shows summer uniform with white breeches and white waistcoat and winter uniform with grey breeches and red waistcoat. Guard of Liege, probably blue, with yellow cuffs Trognee/Delouperche/Spaen blue, faced red, drummer red faced and laced white Jaymaert/Lynden blue, faced red. |
Whirlwind ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 18 Jun 2023 10:39 a.m. PST |
Thanks, that is very kind. And pleased you are having a nice Father's Day! I have COVID at the moment, so the closest I have been to my bairns today is to wave at them down the stairs (the eldest is doing exams and I am trying desperately not to pass it on)… If I start to feel a bit better, I will try and slap the first bits of paint on to try and take my mind off things… |
Steamingdave2 | 18 Jun 2023 12:09 p.m. PST |
@ whirlwind Pleased to help. Hope the blasted virus leaves you pretty soon; a reminder that we are not out of it yet. I see you are a Notts lad; so am I, but left many years ago and back in ancestral land. Used to be in Mansfield wargames club back in the.1980s |
Whirlwind ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 18 Jun 2023 12:38 p.m. PST |
Thanks, appreciate it. I am hoping to get to the Mansfield club (Forest Outlaws) soon – they seem a nice bunch and as soon as life settles a tiny bit, I will get up there. |
Michael Hopper | 03 Mar 2024 9:45 p.m. PST |
I am late to this conversation but do have a question. Regarding the Dutch and French "grey/gray" uniforms = which nationality's "grey/gray" would be lighter. I did some French in a light grey only to look at uniform plates afterward. The Dutch appear to be a pale grey compared to the French. Does anyone have an informed opinion versus my guess? |
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