GeorgBuchner | 26 Mar 2023 5:18 p.m. PST |
Hi so folloowing from the great replies i got regarding Auenhain farm, i set out to find maybe some other books to get to read on the 1813 campaign but there are quite a selection so i am hoping i can get some help with what fokls think is the bes tout of these: authors being: Michael Leggieres 2 volume work on Napoleons Struggle for Germany 1813, Michael Lawfords Napoleon Last Campaigns F N Maude Leipzig Clash of Titans F Lorraine Petre, Napoleon's Last Campaign in Germany, 1813 Pflug-Hartung 1813-1815 Illustrierte Geschichte der Befreiungskriege George Cathcart: The War of German Liberation: the Campaign of 1813 Against Napoleon by an Eyewitness (Paperback) Plotho : Der Krieg in Deutschland und Frankreich in den Jahren 1813 und 1814 i have Nafzigers Leipzig and Dresden books and they are very detailed but i have troubled extracting information from them
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von Winterfeldt | 26 Mar 2023 10:34 p.m. PST |
Petre should be available on line, otherwise I would go for Leggieres 2 volums, in case you are able to read German, the have a go at Plotho and the generalstaff history volumes, about the Frühjahrsfeldzug (2) and the Herbestfeldzug (3) |
Musketballs | 26 Mar 2023 11:47 p.m. PST |
George Cathcart: Commentaries on the war in Russia and Germany in 1812 and 1813: link But…another vote for Leggiere for a comprehensive and up-to-date work. |
GeorgBuchner | 26 Mar 2023 11:57 p.m. PST |
thanks okay so it seems Leggieres work is one to get. and yes i can read german, are the Plotho and General staff history volumes two separate things, or one and the same? |
BillyNM | 27 Mar 2023 2:23 a.m. PST |
+1 for the Leggiere 2-vol history, but if you want more focus on tactical detail and OOBs there's the 3 Nafziger books on the 1813 campaign (Lutzen and Bautzen; Napoleon at Dresden; and, Napoleon at Leipzig). |
Ravenfeeder | 27 Mar 2023 4:40 a.m. PST |
I haven't read Leggiere's 'Struggle for Germany', but I found his earlier work 'Napoleon and Berlin' to be nothing short of a hagiography of von Bulow. Is 'Struggle for Germany' more balanced? |
Prince of Essling | 27 Mar 2023 4:57 a.m. PST |
@GeorgBuchner, Look at the bibliography at the back of Naffziger as there are some real gems there. I am with vW on Plotho and the generalstaff history volumes, about the Frühjahrsfeldzug (2) and the Herbestfeldzug (3), would also add the K.u.K Staff History (unfortunately the latter on line versions do not include the maps). Der krieg in Deutschland und Frankreich in den jahren 1813 und 1814 by Plotho, Carl von, 1781-1820 Publication date 1817 Publisher Berlin, C.F. Amelang Volume 1 PDF link Volume 2 PDF link Volume 3 PDF link |
von Winterfeldt | 27 Mar 2023 5:15 a.m. PST |
I agree forget the KuK publications which are great quality as well. |
Lascaris | 27 Mar 2023 7:41 a.m. PST |
I'm a huge fan of James Arnold so I would suggest his "Napoleon 1813." |
BTCTerrainman | 27 Mar 2023 1:11 p.m. PST |
I recommend the Leggieres books as well as James Arnold's work suggested by Lascaris. I find the Nafzigers books to great resources as well. Interestingly, I go back and forth between all three when planning what if scenarios. All three authors have different styles and include some different information on the events. Arnold's books are the easiest to read and are very enjoyable. |
Allan F Mountford | 27 Mar 2023 1:47 p.m. PST |
@Prince of Essling Have you ever come across a collection of the Plotho maps? I may have seem some online over the years that were not attributed. |
miniMo | 27 Mar 2023 4:17 p.m. PST |
Doesn't cover the whole campaign, but I have and enjoy 1813 Leipzig by Digby Smith. |
GeorgBuchner | 27 Mar 2023 5:09 p.m. PST |
thanks – the Plotho ones sound good, but i also came across some german works by Rudolf Friedrich – volumes for teh Fruehjahrs- and Herbst- Feldzuege which look to be indepth i didnt know there was an 1813 book by James Arnold, i really like his Crisis on the Danube book |
Prince of Essling | 27 Mar 2023 11:34 p.m. PST |
The Arnold book is solely the Spring campaign – titled "Napoleon 1813 Decision at Bautzen". Scope for a sequel? When I get sometime, will post titles & links to some other useful downloadable books on 1813. |
Prince of Essling | 28 Mar 2023 3:33 a.m. PST |
@Allan F Mountford, From the header pages of the various books there appears to be just one map – a plan of Wittenberg. Ian |
Brechtel198 | 28 Mar 2023 6:33 p.m. PST |
The Esposito/Elting Atlas has an excellent chapter on the 1813 campaign and its Recommended Reading List can be helpful. |
Allan F Mountford | 29 Mar 2023 2:23 a.m. PST |
@Prince of Essling Perhaps 1817 was a little early to produce detailed maps. Also, whilst Plotho provides masses of OOB data, he does use estimates for strengths (at least he admits to his methodology), a practice I have noticed in reviewing content on contemporary/early OOB data for the Waterloo campaign. |
Murvihill | 29 Mar 2023 5:15 a.m. PST |
Petre's book inspired me when I was a teen. That and the OSG game Napoleon at Leipzig that included a lot of supporting documentation. |
Allan F Mountford | 29 Mar 2023 2:18 p.m. PST |
@Murvihill If that was the Kevin Zucker OSG 1st edition, I remember it, too. An older gaming colleague of mine, Mike Leese, had bought it. It had a Study Folder containing a detailed OOB for both sides. This must have been in the late 1970s and I had never seen anything like it. Mike had also bought the OSG 1st edition 'Napoleon at Bay' (the 1814 campaign). That also had a detailed Study Folder containing snapshot OOBs for both sides throughout the campaign period. It was quite an eye-opener to see the fluctuating unit strengths and particularly the non-combat attrition losses, something the game reflected quite brutally. I am still an avid follower of Kevin Zucker and his OSG team's games. |
Murvihill | 30 Mar 2023 5:20 a.m. PST |
In college I found "Geshishte dem Feldzug 1813-1815" which had complete OB's for the Allied armies, down to the battalion IIRC. In old German gothic text, cool books. My high-school failure German couldn't translate the actual book but the OB's were awesome. |