robert piepenbrink | 24 Feb 2023 3:38 p.m. PST |
It was ONE novel by H. Beam Piper and a couple of books written after his death Beam can't be held accountable for. Look for a copy of "Down Styphon!" It was a set of tactical rules for Lord Kalvan. I remember flag and uniform guides. There may have been a map. But remember this is Aryan-Transpacific. The whole settlement pattern is going to be different. You can talk about "wilderness campaigns" but those FIW and AWI armies have supply chains from coastal cities and through the Appalachians based on places which don't exist in Hostigos' timeline. There's no Louisburg and no France. There's a Manhattan, of course. There always is and the Paracops find it annoying. But no ships are sailing up the Hudson or down the St Lawrence to bring muskets, cannon and ammunition to the Great Warpath, and no one's trudging west from the Delaware or the Chesapeake to seize and hold Fort Pitt. If you just want a pathless forest, Piper's Great Kingdoms won't help. |
robert piepenbrink | 25 Feb 2023 4:32 a.m. PST |
I gave you the best I had. At a range of 40+ years since I saw it, you were lucky to get that much. |
Bashytubits | 25 Feb 2023 10:23 a.m. PST |
It is a paralell universe, the geography should be mostly the same. So find maps of the relevant places in real life and make your own maps, it is not that hard. A little imagination can take you to fantastical places. If I remember correctly the book has description of all the key players battle flags. Use the thirty years war and English civil war for inspiration for the armies. That is how I would handle it, make it a group project for even more oomph. P.S. Here is a website that has maps and other things to help with an imagination campaign for Lord Kalvan. hostigos.com/maps.php |
Andrew Walters | 25 Feb 2023 11:41 a.m. PST |
I have the FGU game but I don't remember what's in it. |
Shagnasty | 25 Feb 2023 11:41 a.m. PST |
Thank you Bashytubits! This is an intriguing site I shall explore with interest. Down Styphon! |
Andrew Walters | 26 Feb 2023 12:40 a.m. PST |
Lord Kalvan is pretty great, don't give up on it because people can't read a question. Googling "map of Pennsylvania without roads" gave me many, many roadmaps. This site has a bunch of old maps, some might be helpful. link In particular,
might do the job.
is pretty neat. Aha! store.usgs.gov/map-locator Go to that link, scroll over the PA. Click on the folded map icon in the upper right. Click the third option, ESRI USA Topo. That gives you a good looking map with *NO* roads or cities whatsoever. That should get you pretty far, since it connects to the map store, etc. Hope that helps! Check back here in a couple days, I'll see what's in the Down Styphon! book and report back. |
79thPA | 27 Feb 2023 2:09 p.m. PST |
I've got the rules, but I've been on vacation all week, so I'll check them tomorrow. I don't recall much in the way of maps… |
Andrew Walters | 27 Feb 2023 5:21 p.m. PST |
Woohoo! Gold. Luckily, I stumbled onto the rules in the office before I started searching the garage. That was very, very lucky. And page 2 has two hand drawn maps and some flags. They're hand-drawn maps from FGU in 1977, but they're still pretty good. I will scan them and post them to the DS! page on boardgamegeek.com It will take a few hours for them to get "approved" and then we'll all know where to look for them in the future. These rules look pretty interesting, I think I'll read through them again. |
Andrew Walters | 27 Feb 2023 5:24 p.m. PST |
Oops, there's already a map scan there. Mine's better, let's see if they'll add it. |
79thPA | 27 Feb 2023 11:25 p.m. PST |
I think the maps in the rules are quite poor, and they don't show much of anything except the location of the countries in relation to one another. On the plus side, the hand rendering is superimposed over the outline of Pennsylvania, so that may prove useful if you take the crude hand drawn map in the rules and use it as an overlay with a map from above. There is nothing in the rules about any type of campaign system, although there is an optional points list. The time period for the novel is roughly the English Civil War, and several ECW figure manufacturers of the time are listed as figure sources. |
Andrew Walters | 01 Mar 2023 11:38 a.m. PST |
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79thPA | 01 Mar 2023 12:58 p.m. PST |
Did you expect them to list figure sources of the future? |