| ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa | 12 Jan 2023 8:49 a.m. PST |
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 Legion 4  | 12 Jan 2023 11:59 a.m. PST |
Having a hard time finding someone with "the right stuff" in the Russia Military … Don't think they will … |
| ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa | 12 Jan 2023 12:10 p.m. PST |
Commentators seem to be saying this is more about Putin demonstrating his authority than any specific military necessity. I suppose the Ukrainian high-command won't be too bothered if Putin continues swapping his commanders around on a whim. |
| Legion 4 | 12 Jan 2023 12:13 p.m. PST |
Everyone Putin picks don't change anything at the front it seems. They don't have the assets or probably the capabilities. If Putin has to show he is still in charge. That may speak loudly … |
| smithsco | 12 Jan 2023 10:31 p.m. PST |
I read this a little differently. I think Putin is pulling off the gloves and there will be a major offensive in the next couple months. The previous commander was out back in charge of air forces in Ukraine which is what he was originally doing. Not a lack of the right stuff. Gerasimov is the brain of their military and supposedly the mastermind behind the Crimea seizure |
| Tortorella | 13 Jan 2023 7:50 a.m. PST |
I think maybe we originally discussed here the heavy losses of high level officers who had to spend a lot of time at the front dealing with poorly led field operations? I could be wrong here, but it has looked like two things going on…poor tactical doctrine regarding combined arms and poor mid-level leadership in the field.
Obviously not the only factors… |
| ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa | 13 Jan 2023 9:40 a.m. PST |
I read this a little differently. Both may be true according to this piece… link |
| Andy ONeill | 13 Jan 2023 9:52 a.m. PST |
Which floor is that revolving door out of? |
| Legion 4 | 13 Jan 2023 11:51 a.m. PST |
Sad commentary from people who should know their history better. Just a heads up … the ACW was 1861-1865 … today's date is 2023. Just say'n … BTW comparing Lincoln in any light with Putin … well … "that dog just don't hunt!" … Putin wishes he had commanders as skilled in modern warfare as Grant was in the ACW. |
| Druzhina | 13 Jan 2023 1:12 p.m. PST |
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| Legion 4 | 13 Jan 2023 6:10 p.m. PST |
Some good points in that article … |
| Blutarski | 13 Jan 2023 8:59 p.m. PST |
Go here –
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No one was demoted or insulted. Gerasimov is Chief of the General Staff of the Russian Armed Forces (equivalent to the Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff). Surovikin already reported to him. Given that this expected Russian winter offensive is highly likely to involve the Russian Army, the Russian Navy and the Russian Air Force, etc, one might reasonably imagine that it makes sense to appoint someone with the necessary overall rank and command clout at the top to run the show.
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| williamb | 14 Jan 2023 1:03 a.m. PST |
@Carnot
It wasn't just "Lincoln exercising his power" replacing the overall commander of Union forces. While some of them were good at organizing logistics and command organization, prior to Grant being appointed overall commander they were outclassed by the Confederate commanders, overly cautious, etc. |
| ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa | 14 Jan 2023 6:15 a.m. PST |
I think its fair to say that there is a tendency for commentators and the media to view these changes entirely through the lens of Kremlinology. It may be a sensible pragmatic move. Though previously there have been such moves, on his installation Surovikin was allowed to pull back from the Kherson region – then it appears that a lot of the better troops that became available as a result have been redeployed into the Donbas and the hell-scape that is Bahkmut. |
| Legion 4 | 14 Jan 2023 11:54 a.m. PST |
williamb … +1 That is the way I understand it. After studying, be taught Military History in the US Army, watching the History Channel and wargaming the ACW, etc. |
| Legion 4 | 14 Jan 2023 5:48 p.m. PST |
Based on the Russians performance in combat ops, I don't they follow any process for anything. |
goes to sea with the Terrain Mat.
