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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP15 Dec 2022 4:05 p.m. PST

…The Arctic?

"From the end of World War II until the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, the United States and Russia stood on opposing sides of a potential conflict. Through the U.S. strategies of containment and limited war, mutual destruction was avoided, and the spread of communism was held back. Eventually, economic pressure, partially caused by the arms race and partially deriving from the fallacy of communist economics, destroyed the Soviet Union. Unfortunately, it was replaced with the new Russia, which has similar expansionist goals.

In Europe, the U.S. strategies of containment and limited war are once again being played out, in Ukraine. The U.S. and its allies, the EU and NATO, are supporting the defense of a sovereign nation which has been invaded by Russia. Meanwhile, Russia has other ambitions which could pose a threat to U.S. ambitions…"

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Why Is Russia Deploying A Rare Arctic Air Defense System To Ukraine?

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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP15 Dec 2022 5:17 p.m. PST

I don't think the Russians have the assets to start a "Second Front" … Or the ability to conduct any operation like this. Again Article 5 … an attack on one is an attack on all.

Druzhina15 Dec 2022 10:22 p.m. PST

As Russian's arctic forces have mostly been sent to Ukraine over the last 10 months, they are much less of a military threat in the arctic than they were before.

The Tor is not unusual, it is only the vehicle it is mounted on that is rare. It is being sent because the Russians are desperate.

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nsolomon9916 Dec 2022 2:14 a.m. PST

What Russian threat?! Anywhere frankly! Russian military might has been exposed as a myth. They've got little left. They're not about to open another front anywhere. They're struggling to hold their lines in Ukraine as it is. Their vaunted military is now struggling to supply food, clothes, ammunition and fuel to the conscripted old men sent to the front.

Tango, this is just click bait and you know it.

Robert Johnson16 Dec 2022 2:56 a.m. PST

Utter rubbish!

Again, an itchy 'submit' finger and a lack of critical thought or research.

Tor has been deployed in various Russian theatres of war, and it's used by many other countries
As Druzhina said, it's not rare.

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP16 Dec 2022 5:47 p.m. PST

The Washington Post had an excellent in-depth article today on how this war in Ukraine has decimated a formerly elite Russian brigade that was formerly stationed in the Arctic as a guard for the naval bases around Murmansk, Petsamo, etc. It was ground up in Ukraine. I don't see how that capacity could be replaced by Russia in this past year. I also have read a lot about how US and especially Norwegian forces in that theatre train continually and are very, very capable. If I were Russia, there's no way I'm going to get tangled up with Norwegian mountain/arctic fighters -- or the Finns (again!), who wouldn't stand by idly. And Sweden's soon to be part of that northern alliance. No, Russia is seriously outmatched up there.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP16 Dec 2022 6:35 p.m. PST

Yes, like everything else in the Russian military at this time is suffering from attrition, poor leadership, and logistics, etc.

BTW the US Army has two Artic Parachute Bdes there, plus USAF, USN, CG, etc., assets in the region. I think the US Military could handle whatever the Russians would throw at us. Plus, the Canadians are there too. But again … an attack one is an attack on all.

Thresher0116 Dec 2022 7:26 p.m. PST

Probably not.

Not too many troops will be required there, other than small packets of elite units, but you do need ice breakers, and the Russians have numerous, nuclear powered ones. 10 or so, IIRC, and that number may have changed, since I think they were producing more of them due to this concern.

The USA has either zero, or ONE icebreaker, and it is NOT nuclear powered, so we have a horrific, ice breaker gap, and Russia has a lot more leverage in the Arctic than we do, due to that, as well as their numerous air and naval bases adjacent to the Arctic Ocean too.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP16 Dec 2022 9:36 p.m. PST



soledad17 Dec 2022 3:23 a.m. PST


Russian arctic "elite" unit smacked around in Ukraine. More or less wiped out.

Never under estimate the russians but they have so far not excelled in war fighting.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP17 Dec 2022 1:10 p.m. PST

Russia has a lot more leverage in the Arctic than we do, due to that, as well as their numerous air and naval bases adjacent to the Arctic Ocean too.
But as we see … are they capable to actually do such an operation? Based on their performance in the Ukraine … probably not.

Augustus18 Dec 2022 4:15 p.m. PST

Apparently, the Canadians are putting together arctic "Ranger" units for this purpose.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP18 Dec 2022 4:25 p.m. PST

As I said the Canadians are there too. Again … an attack one is an attack on all.

Tgunner Supporting Member of TMP27 Dec 2022 9:22 a.m. PST

A YouTuber called Battle Order has gathered up an account of the 200th's operations.

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Here's the part 2-

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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP30 Dec 2022 9:56 p.m. PST

Russia said they are at their gates…

Russian Foreign Minister Says Hundreds Of American Troops Are In Ukraine



Blutarski31 Dec 2022 10:24 a.m. PST

Russian Foreign Minister Says Hundreds Of American Troops Are In Ukraine

They are not "troops". They are "advisors", "inspectors" and "contractors".



Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP31 Dec 2022 2:57 p.m. PST

Russian Foreign Minister Says Hundreds Of American Troops Are In Ukraine
More Russian propaganda … There may be some US and other nations' PMCs, but not affiliated to the US, etc.

Actual US Combat troops, highly unlikely.

CIA probably … maybe even DELTA …

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP31 Dec 2022 4:07 p.m. PST



Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2023 10:19 p.m. PST

What Are Poseidon Torpedoes? Putin's 'Unstoppable' Nuclear Weapon



Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP18 Jan 2023 10:15 a.m. PST

He knows like Un and of course, the PRC/CCP. You start tossing around WMDs/Nukes that could be a 0-Sum game. There is no good outcome. The world's nations are not like some jihadis/islamic terrorists, etc. Some who believe if they got a Nuke(s), and it is said AQ, etc. has tried. They'd use it as if they die killing infidels … well we know the rest.

The world's nations leaders don't want to die in a fiery nuke explosion(s). Or die from the fallout, etc., …

However, nuke torpedoes have been around for a while. IIRC, the USN has nuke tipped torpedoes too. I'm sure some experts in this topic will correct me. I welcome the knowledge.

AFAIK, a small nuke charge in the warhead, if it hits a ship, e.g. Aircraft Carrier/CVN, etc. it probably sink that big vessel very quickly.

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