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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian23 Sep 2022 7:45 p.m. PST

Russian state TV claims Ukrainians are selling US-donated weapons on the dark web. The BBC investigated one such marketplace, spoke undercover to those apparently selling weapons, and gathered evidence that suggests the adverts for weapons are fake.

bbc.com/news/world-62983444

Bunkermeister Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2022 7:57 p.m. PST

There is always a certain amount of leakage in any government program. And military programs that involve active combat it is easy for a few items to disappear here and there. Or they get captured and the capturing nation or soldiers sell the times.
If you want US weapons go to Vietnam or Afghanistan they have a few they will likely sell you.

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ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa24 Sep 2022 3:50 a.m. PST

There were a few articles circulating earlier suggesting that the stories about US weapons on the dark web were fake, but this is the most thorough take down I've seen.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2022 10:55 a.m. PST

I would think they'd be more useful used than sold at this point. Also note even when the war is "over", the Ukraine will still have to defend itself from a future Russian threat.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2022 6:43 p.m. PST

We will have to wait and see. But there still are millions missing from our wars in Iraq and A'stan …

Druzhina25 Sep 2022 3:33 a.m. PST

"It is naive to think there is not massive fraud in one of the, if not the most corrupt, countries in Europe."
Not a jot compared to the corruption of the Russian Army.


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Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2022 7:34 a.m. PST

Good point … the Russia Army is a mess in so many ways.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian25 Sep 2022 4:40 p.m. PST

…but "corruption" ala diverting arms and supplies from frontline combat units is not something I have seen any evidence of.

see TMP link

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP25 Sep 2022 5:53 p.m. PST

diverting arms and supplies from frontline combat units is not something I have seen any evidence of.
Their marginal at best performance in combat demonstrates, regardless a military force of little capabilities. If they were supplied this makes it that much worse. However, as we saw they do very poorly with Log support too.

Druzhina26 Sep 2022 2:25 a.m. PST

Mostly pre-invasion when the opportunities were greater, Russian officers sold the petrol for their unit, the plates from vests, food and anything else that was not nailed down. Budgets were misappropriated on a massive scale. Officials take bribes for everything from draft dodging to major contracts.


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