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soledad29 Jul 2022 9:43 a.m. PST

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Disgusting crime by Russian soldiers as he castrates a POW. do not watch the movie unless you are prepared for gruesome fotage.

It shows how depraved Russian soldiers are. What every country should expect if they are invaded. This is understod by all East european countries.

In every war Russia has been hated. I fully understand why. I understand why Afghans tortured Russians and Chechens commited bombings in Russia.

Russia is simply ISIS on a greater level.

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP29 Jul 2022 10:01 a.m. PST

Russians also find the way to mass murder the POW, taken in Mariupol.
They placed the prisoners in small camp and then fired this camp with rockets or artillery as usual blaming Ukrainians.

soledad29 Jul 2022 10:05 a.m. PST

Yes. I have also read that. Fighting Russians is a "no surrender ". If you fight you may live. If you surrender you will be tortured and killed.

I wish the specific Russian is caught and sentenced and placed in a Ukrainian prison.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2022 10:10 a.m. PST

It is clear the Russians are committing a large number of war crimes. And it seems[no surprise!] from Putin on down really don't care … I fear many including Putin will never be brought to justice for their war crimes/medieval behavior.

rmaker29 Jul 2022 10:14 a.m. PST

I am surprised that anyone is surprised by this. The Russian Army has always "fought" this way.

mjkerner29 Jul 2022 10:22 a.m. PST

Every effing Russian "soldier" is an animal deserving a bullet in the back of the head, including any Russian trolls who support them on the Internet.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2022 10:27 a.m. PST

Repulsive.

Arjuna29 Jul 2022 10:27 a.m. PST

I could make a quite insightful comment about ruzzian behaviour on social media.
A behaviour I observed lately in context of a side project, scanning their information space.
But the post would probably be nuked because of bad taste.

So I just stay calm, wait and game the house rules.

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Ceterum censeo…
Stop them in Ukraine, send more heavy weapons.
The more dead ruzzian soldiers pile up there, the better.

And a new Lada for every ruzzian father!
YouTube link

Bandolier29 Jul 2022 1:58 p.m. PST

"I wish the specific Russian is caught and sentenced and placed in a Ukrainian prison"
The internet has already found his full name and address. I won't repost it here but it's out there.
This unhuman filth is part of the reason why ordinary Ukrainians now hate Russians and their apologists, and will never give up.

Heedless Horseman Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2022 6:47 p.m. PST

Not EVERY Russian soldier is Evil.
Nor were EVERY German, Japanese… or, yes…Allied Troops, either, in WW2.. or soldiers in ANY other War.
But…
SOME ARE EVIL… and deserve retribution… note that I do NOT say 'Justice'… THAT went out the window with WW2… and probably long before.

I imagine Ukrainians will NEVER forgive Russians for events in this War. Just regard the HATRED felt by so many for events in WW2? Long ago…

But… sometimes 'initial reactions' on postings on fora are… rather horrifying in 'intent'. This is how 'War Crimes' begin.

THINK about it…!

Dragon Gunner29 Jul 2022 6:52 p.m. PST

I would make it a condition of any "peace" that this Russian soldier is handed over to the Ukrainians before talks can even begin. At a MINIMUM I would lock him in a soundproof isolation cell and keep him alive for a very long time… He would be a screaming wreck by the time I was done with him.

When the hostilities are done the Russians will say he was killed in action and his remains were cremated so they cannot comply with handing him over for justice.

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP29 Jul 2022 9:41 p.m. PST

"Not EVERY Russian soldier is Evil."

Don't start with such nonsense.
Yes, there may be one or two Russian soldiers who are not and less than 10% of Russian population don't support such behaviour, but most of armed terrorists who invaded to neighbour country without declaring the war (and their motherland supporters) are.

Also this is Russian usual and approved state practice in conquered territories. They did it in Chechnya, Syria etc. Local population (especially males) must be suppressed and decapitated, or as they say – denazified. The only regret the Russians have is that information about such behaviour come to daylight prematurely and their national heroes who did it may suffer.

Tango0129 Jul 2022 10:11 p.m. PST

Cuprum 2…?

Armand

Arjuna29 Jul 2022 11:34 p.m. PST

The only regret the Russians have is that information about such behaviour come to daylight prematurely and their national heroes who did it may suffer.

The publication of atrocities by the ruzzian soldateska is part of ruzzian psychological warfare.
It's their Mongolian cultural heritage.
The Mongolian skull pyramid folklore, all inclusive.
The whole shebang.

That they somewhat cover it up or deny it nowadays is part of the decadent Western effeminacy they so bitterly deplore and despise.
A thin whitewash of civilization over barbarism.
But fear not, they will soon get rid of the last stains of impurity of ruzzian culture.

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Ceterum censeo…
Stop them in Ukraine, send more heavy weapons.
The more dead ruzzian soldiers pile up there, the better.

And a new Lada for every ruzzian father!
YouTube link

Heedless Horseman Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2022 11:47 p.m. PST

I AM A BRIT… so not Cuprum 2… But respect for some things, said by Cuprum.
I am APPALLED by the way that views are becoming so 'radicalised'.
We KNOW that this War is WRONG… but most Russians DON'T… and those 'Squaddies' , Grunts'.. less so. Indoctrinated in 'Belief'…as most soldiers are.
Just 'serving'.

I cannot/WILL not 'rejoice' in pics of a burnt out vehicle/ship/ shot down Helo., Some Mother's son died there.
It was needed to be so… but there is a fine line to be drawn… and easily crossed online…where WE are not there.

I have read about Russian troops actions in Late WW2… other areas… and now. BUT… I am a Westerner… and so we have OUR own propaganda.

WW1 'Huns' did NOT stick Babies on Bayonets… as far as I know… just what was perceived… and 'pushed' by the media of the time.

I will not HATE Russians/ Nazis/ IRA/ Extremist Muslim terrorists, etc. For being what they are.
I shoot Rats… but I hate doing it… there IS a difference. Just, Rats are Rats.. and are not wanted.

Sometimes, things HAVE to be done. But… there IS a fine Line.. and easily crossed. Too many seem to be slipping 'over'.

Maybe, in shooting Rats, I Have?

Robert Johnson30 Jul 2022 7:16 a.m. PST

I'd rather not have to read apologia for murdering scum participating in an illegal war against another country.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP30 Jul 2022 7:23 a.m. PST

rmaker +1


This is war ladies and gentlemen, it is not pretty…it never has been, and I'm somewhat surprised at the "outrage" expressed in this post.
I'm sure everyone who studies history knows that. But in 21st Century Europe, many like I may have thought we have evolved from such "medieval" behavior. In the Mid East, Africa, A'stan, etc. it is almost expected in some cases. With tribal, religious, warlord, mullah, etc. affiliations, some going back decades or longer still are in play. Go back in the 20th Century Europe, after the war crimes of WWII then in the former Yugoslavia.

But not all militaries today commit the crimes that are as widespread or as brutal as in the Ukraine. By saying it happens in war, as we know it does, is almost like giving them a pass. Based on my training & experience in my youth … old fart

williamb30 Jul 2022 9:01 a.m. PST

This is another article on this and notes that the unit he belongs to was awarded the title of Guards by Putin for the other war crimes the unit is identified as committing
link

soledad30 Jul 2022 11:16 a.m. PST

@Carnot. You and I obviously have a very different view on war. Yes war Is brutal but there are actually quite a few "laws" that should be followed. Civilized countries follow those rules as much as they can. When transgressions occur they are investigated and prosecuted.

Torturing defenseless people is not ok, not even close.

And it not even close to being a '"civil war". Ukraine have never been a part of Russia.

You talk like you think behavior like this is ok and that probably the Ukrainians also do things like it. A line of thought I find despicable.

I must say that I find opinions like yours quite repulsive.

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Jul 2022 12:36 p.m. PST

Independent Rossian Federation also exist only since the end of the Soviet Union.

Robert Johnson30 Jul 2022 1:08 p.m. PST

Carnot
The historical reality is that Ukraine became a sovereign state recognised by the UN with the breakup of the Soviet Union. Putin has decided that it didn't happen.

Any other apologia for Putin?

Robert Johnson30 Jul 2022 2:19 p.m. PST

It seems that Carnot and Cuprum are both pro-Russian propagandists, however much they protest otherwise.

Bandolier30 Jul 2022 2:37 p.m. PST

Carnot has done a fine job of derailing the OP with a side rant.

Bandolier30 Jul 2022 4:41 p.m. PST

Ok. Credibility established, carnot.
Tin foil is in aisle 6.

Arjuna30 Jul 2022 11:35 p.m. PST

Gee and I thought the Ukrainian propagandists were smart enough to pick names that wouldn't expose them…Robert Johnson

Robert Johnson?
The Robert Johnson?
The King of the Delta Blues that sold his soul to the devil in Rosedale Mississippi, was advocate of a free Ukraine?

Damn, you learn something new about people every day.
Especially about those that tell you something new about people.


To get in the moot, meet some sad clowns at the crossroads:
Robert Johnson- Crossroad – On Youtube

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Ceterum censeo…
Stop them in Ukraine, send more heavy weapons.
The more dead ruzzian soldiers pile up there, the better.

And a new Lada for every ruzzian father!
YouTube link

Sho Boki Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Jul 2022 11:58 p.m. PST

"the fact that the Ukraine has only recently been considered an independent country"

I must repeat that independent Rossian Federation is only one year older than Ukraina..

jsmcc9131 Jul 2022 6:17 a.m. PST

A civil war? Really? A blatant attack on a sovereign nation is not a civil war. Is Cuprum and Carnot the same person?

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2022 12:42 p.m. PST

A blatant attack on a sovereign nation
That is the bottom line … The Ukraine had done nothing to Russia.

Robert Johnson31 Jul 2022 12:43 p.m. PST

Are we correct in assuming carnot that you are in fact Nicolas Carnot, 19th century ingenieur et phyiscien?

My name is my own, I didn't choose it, blame my parents. You may call me Rob if it makes you happier.

Tango0131 Jul 2022 10:16 p.m. PST

Invaders threaten to take children away if parents don't send them to be indoctrinated ‘to love Russia'


khpg.org/en/1608810962


Armand

soledad16 Sep 2022 12:35 p.m. PST

Seems like it has happened again. this time to 25 Ukrainian soldiers on the Kharkiv front/near Izium. 25 soldiers who were injured and taken to hospital and during this Russians started to cut them up.

So it looks like it is not a single incident, more like organized. Different kinds of "torture" centers have been found in Balakalika (spelling?) and in Izium or in the vicinity.

Also mass graves have been found, hundreds of civilians have been found tortured and murdered.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP16 Sep 2022 3:57 p.m. PST

More Russian War Crimes :

link

soledad15 Dec 2022 1:47 p.m. PST

link

Read the article. A 7 year old girls body has been exhumed. Armen/DNA from seven different men found in her… So seven Russian soldiers have gang raped a seven year old girl.

Russia and its people do not get much sympathy from me.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP15 Dec 2022 5:43 p.m. PST

Russian soldiers have gang raped a seven year old girl.

Russia and its people do not get much sympathy from me.

They did the same in WWII when they moved West. What happened to many German women e.g. when the Russians got a hold of them in Berlin, etc.. The Bishop of Berlin had to ask the Pope for special dispensation to allow 90,000 raped German women to get abortions. Of course, the Germans in the East were no better. Nor the IJFs at Nanking, etc.

Regardless that happened in many militaries during the war. However, those were not SOP. Numbers were small. Does not excuse or justify it … But I think we hoped after WWII European nations would not invade each other and commit war crimes. But then there was the former Yugoslavia … a few decades after WWII. Murder & rape were not rare.

ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa16 Dec 2022 8:52 a.m. PST

What are you talking about "there are no crimes" in occupied Ukraine….
link

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP16 Dec 2022 12:03 p.m. PST

LOL ! Yeah, more of Putin's et al skullduggery/propaganda/lying, 🐮 & 🐴💩💩, etc. BTW I'm dating a top fashion model too … 💃 evil grin

CFeicht16 Dec 2022 4:40 p.m. PST

There are probably instances of similar conduct perpetrated by Ukrainian forces, but you'll never hear of it over the "rah rah Zelenskyy" chatter …..

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP16 Dec 2022 6:49 p.m. PST

That might be true … as I posted already, war crime happen in a conflict. But in many, but not all, cases they are few and far between. In most Western Forces …

But if it does happen as I said, nothing justifies or excuses it.

ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa18 Dec 2022 3:13 p.m. PST

There are probably instances of similar conduct perpetrated by Ukrainian forces, but you'll never hear of it over the "rah rah Zelenskyy" chatter …..

Absolutely. Will Russians families get justice? Probably a considerably slimmer chance than the Ukrainians slim chance and vanishingly small with Putin's continued condoning and justification of war crimes among his troops and by extension at least some in the Russian population at large. Frankly I think the restraint of the Ukrainian people is pretty commendable. Certain news outlets went mad over the pictures of suspected collaborators tied to lampposts in Kherson. They were tied to lamp posts – in France 1944/45 they were hung from them (and very little was said or done)! I have no doubt that that some potential Russian POWs will have been shot (though in some cases it may be a toss up as to whether it was actually the Ukrainians or someone on their own side). Also that lone Russian soldiers may have run into locals in some isolated spot which they never left. War is a grim business awash with grim little vignettes where lives cross in ways they really shouldn't have to.

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