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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP21 Jul 2022 3:24 a.m. PST

I have made a start on the Chasseurs a Cheval of the Guard to go in the Duty Squadron for Waterloo Remodelled. Only 25 and it needs 100, but I will get there. They are Art Miniaturen, with the pelisses left over from the Prussian Hussars. Now I very much doubt there were many thus turned out on that day, but James could not resist the full dress look. 75 to go, not to mention the Red Lancers to follow.

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Fred Mills21 Jul 2022 3:50 a.m. PST

Lovely work!

cavcrazy21 Jul 2022 4:15 a.m. PST

Beautifully done.

forrester21 Jul 2022 4:21 a.m. PST

Yes, this is one of those units that rightly demands to be produced in full dress, despite any evidence to the contrary!

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP21 Jul 2022 4:23 a.m. PST

Great work.

skedaddle Supporting Member of TMP21 Jul 2022 11:12 a.m. PST

Those are lovely!

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP21 Jul 2022 2:15 p.m. PST

As always, fantastic work – thanks for sharing!

CHRIS DODSON22 Jul 2022 12:08 a.m. PST

Excellent work as always Mr D.

Best wishes,

Chris

Lambert Supporting Member of TMP22 Jul 2022 3:13 a.m. PST

They look amazing! Elaborate uniform that isn't easy to paint, and what a stunning effect. Look forward to seeing all 100 on the diorama.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP22 Jul 2022 9:18 a.m. PST

Many thanks all. I am awaiting 20 more from Art Min and I may make slung pelisses for some, convert some to be wearing them and even leave some as they were seen on the Big Day, dolman only but with overall leggings.

Today I made a start on the Italeri plastic figures from the Command Set. They need much work, but carry some great detail. Remove the fringed epaalette, build up the colpack significantly (it is far too small for that era) and add all the trappings. I still have to create sabretaches, which they lack, but I have redone the pelisse fur lining (actually, was it fur or wool?).

Captain Siborne22 Jul 2022 11:19 a.m. PST

These absolutely wonderful, it's great to have such a master of his art involved in the project!

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP22 Jul 2022 1:25 p.m. PST

I think the master in this project is your Dad , to judge by the buildings he has produced. Totally "made" the exhibition at NAM recently.

Of course the real credit eventually will go to the chap who came up with such a crazy, totally impossible and impracticable idea, which could never conceivably see the light of day. Certainly not to that scale, in some of the most expensive real estate in the world. Waterloo Remodelled could never happen, not in 1/72 or 20mm scale

And yet…..

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2022 3:21 a.m. PST

Please indulge me with one more photo and feedback would be really appreciated. I am very impressed with much of the detail on the Italeri Chasseurs a Cheval, but think they need "upgrading". The colpack I have enlarged, adding the flamme, plume and dangly bits. Sabretache still to do. I do think I overdid the fur/wool lining on the carbine carrying figure.

I guess what I am asking is, is it worth all this work or should I just stick to AM? They are a little smaller than AM, but, once built up like this I think they match reasonably well. This is just a crude close up flash shot but….

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Lets party with Cossacks Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2022 9:49 p.m. PST

They are excellent Liam. The size of the colpacks is now approaching the strelets chasseurs at rest 277, which are to be seen either on the strelets website or the Plastic Soldier Review. Would you consider blending the two, strelets and italeri? With your greenstuff skills I imagine you could generate a large number of differing poses that way.

But these are definitely worth continuing with.

von Winterfeldt23 Jul 2022 10:51 p.m. PST

Good improvement by the use of GS by the rediculous Italeri colpacks, yes I think it would be worthwhile to add.

Otherwise it shows how difficult they are to paint, the red piping at the saddle cloth and other details, it would be nice however – that instead of fantasy dress for 1815, to show a few in the dress which was acutally worn.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP24 Jul 2022 2:03 a.m. PST

Thanks for the encouragement. I do agree that the correct outfit on a few would be better (and also so much easier as no pelisse to paint). I will have to give them overalls, when the AM figures do finally get to me that is.

The Strelets chasseurs at rest are appealing and they do provide a badly needed trumpeter. The snag is the variation in figure size, from the huge AM to the tiny Franznap (which do have exquisite detail however).

Let me post a crude flash photo showing L to R;

AM, Franznap, Italeri before and after, Strelets and Revell


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von Winterfeldt24 Jul 2022 11:21 a.m. PST

I agree Art Miniatures stands out while the rest you could mix.

Captain Siborne24 Jul 2022 12:29 p.m. PST

Knowing what you can manage, these will turn from some rather ordinary plastic figures into something very special. My own view, for what it is worth, is that the Emperor's Service Squadrons would have looked the part, being subject to imperial inspection.

Robert le Diable24 Jul 2022 6:14 p.m. PST

Yes, I've read that, for the duty squadron of the Chasseurs, full dress was mandatory, not least in that the troopers would be instantly recognisable.

Beautiful work on the painting and skilful work on conversion/modification as part of a truly heroic endeavour. At first sight of the Italeri "French Headquarters" plastic set the shabby little "kolpacks" of the Chasseurs were indeed disappointing. The dismounted Chasseur in the Revell set, by the way,can readily be converted into an ADC (or dismounted Hussar) by using a pelisse cut away from an Airfix "British Hussar" and a head from Airfix "French Infantry". Using part of a pin as a tiny dowel helps. And, of course, there are plenty of horses in fairly static poses in that Italeri set.
Good Luck.

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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP25 Jul 2022 6:40 a.m. PST

Thanks again for the replies. I will indeed do a few in the "correct" campaign dress (overalls and the dolman), but removing the flamme and flounders from the metal AM colpacks would be "challenging". Adding overalls is far easier than grinding away metal.

Certainly the small group of chasseurs in immediate attendance as escort to the Emperor had to be seen in full dress, or as near as possible. As for the Duty Squadron, all in chasseur green, on the same colour shabraque and portmanteau, times 100, would be a bit dull.

Spent the morning pinning and supergluing 30 figures to their horses. Half already have all the Greenstuff conversion now and, if my 20 more AM Chasseurs ever get here, then over half way!

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP29 Jul 2022 9:29 a.m. PST

Finally to say thanks again for the encouragement to carry on. Thirty now ready for undercoating, including two conversions to trumpeters. One will be in the full parade dress, however daft that seems. Enough figures without musketoons to make up officers and NCOs also

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von Winterfeldt30 Jul 2022 10:39 p.m. PST

your efforts paid off.

Lets party with Cossacks Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2022 1:49 a.m. PST

They look excellent, a very substantial improvement on the original italeri. Pleasing mixture of horses too!

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2022 2:07 p.m. PST

Well they are all now undercoated in black and I am "jolly pleased" with myself. They do look rather good, I tell myself. Even 'er indoors and two of the three sons approve (and they do not rate plastics)

This lot will have two trumpeters, lots of occifers and various grades of NCOs, even a farrier!

Still awaiting my next lot of AM Chassuers a Chev de La G I. But postage to the UK is a bit "tricky" right now, which is nothing to do with Brexit of course. Obviously………it was a great idea.

Robert le Diable01 Aug 2022 5:58 p.m. PST

Taking back Command and Control, what!

By the way, with a bit of conversion (including the obligatory exchanging of heads), it's not difficult to convert both the Airfix and the ESCI British Artillery into the Artillerie a Cheval of the Garde. I don't know if any manufacturer makes this unit in plastic now; none did thirty-five years ago (neither was there any Lancer set at all; I used Airfix ACW Artillery outriders equipped with pins and the spare heads, suitable trimmed back, from those British Artillery. Very small; they looked just right beside the Airfix Cuirassiers….)

Lambert Supporting Member of TMP04 Aug 2022 12:27 p.m. PST

A lot of work gone into those. I'm sure they'll look spectacular when painted up

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