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RogerC19 Jun 2022 12:55 p.m. PST

Before anyone says anything yes this is another new venture, yes I should know better and yes nobody has ever heard of it.

Anyway other than that the news is on the blog here:

RogerC19 Jun 2022 12:56 p.m. PST

Before anyone says anything yes this is another new venture, yes I should know better and yes nobody has ever heard of it.

Anyway other than that the news is on the blog here:

Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP19 Jun 2022 1:25 p.m. PST

At the risk of obvious seluck f promotion, please consider following these links, first to the two volume work "Viva Juarez!" the most complete work currently in English on military matters of the (Second) French Intervention in Mexico, and the full range of eponymously named 25mm figures . These are fully compatible in size to the excellent Foundry figure range, and has uniforms not available elsewhere.

I think you'll find others have heard of this most extraordinary conflict and the amazing personalities involved. By visiting these links, I also think you will like what you see, but the best of luck to you on your latest project!

"Viva Juarez!"




79thPA Supporting Member of TMP19 Jun 2022 1:38 p.m. PST

I wouldn't say that no one has heard of it, especially those interested in the wars of the Americas. Great use of multiple manufacturers.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP19 Jun 2022 3:18 p.m. PST

No one's heard of it? After Vera Cruz, The Undefeated, and Two Mules for Sister Sarah? You are, however, morally obligated to add a completely mythical French lancer unit. The war just doesn't seem right without one.

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP19 Jun 2022 3:26 p.m. PST

I think it says something about our hobby that, upon discovering the French Intervention in Mexico, every one of us thinks we've discovered a particularly esoteric topic, but there turn out to be zillions of wargamers who already know about it, and several who game it.

The only reason I acquired FPW armies was so I could march the French among the saguaros.

- Ix

D6 Junkie19 Jun 2022 3:36 p.m. PST

Wonderful period to game! I really enjoy it.


KSmyth19 Jun 2022 4:46 p.m. PST

It's a fascinating period with little information available in English. I thought Viva Juarez was very useful, both on the uniform side and on the OOB side.

Could still use a solid narrative history.

Lots of interesting figures to choose from. Not an easy period to grapple with, but a great period to game.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP19 Jun 2022 6:41 p.m. PST

Nice period to game – I have a bunch of them; one great thing is that you can use most of them for Mexican revolutionary gaming as well!

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP19 Jun 2022 7:49 p.m. PST

Agree with VAG, Viva Juarez! two volumes are really worth having. I also like the range of figures that VAG has. True 25mm and fill of old school charm.

FusilierDan Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2022 4:12 a.m. PST

Osprey has a book on it.
and though little known it is the foundation of the Cinco de Mayo holiday.

RogerC20 Jun 2022 5:46 a.m. PST

Well thats all really positive thanks chaps.

When I said nobody had heard of it I was really refering to the guys I game with, I had to reel off the films as well, Major Dundee, Seven Mules for Sister Sarah and Vera Cruz before the confused looks started to clear.

Lost of advocates for the Viva Juarez books from VAG I do have these and I am impressed with them thank you. Picked up after writing this post some time ago. I will check out the range of figures and keep you posted with my progress.

KSmyth20 Jun 2022 4:59 p.m. PST

One other recommendation if you can find it is Tim Tilson's Colonial Campaigns: Maximilian in Mexico. I've fiddled with one of the scenarios from the ten in the book and quite enjoyed it. Just one more source to generate some ideas.


Mad Guru Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2022 11:40 p.m. PST

A great Original Post, 12 helpful positive comments… nearly 400 hits… yet NO ONE has mentioned… CAMERONE???

Like those above, I love the period -- but I confess it's been too long since I've broken out my 28mm Camerone lay-out, built for a game I held on the 150th anniversary of the battle. A scant 10 months or so from now, on April 30th, 2023, will be the 160th anniversary. Hopefully on that day I will be gaming with Captain Danjou's 3rd Company, 1st Battalion of the Legion and Colonel Milan's army of Juaristas at La Trinidad Hacienda -- and you, RogerC, will be doing the same… or something similar!

PS. Also thank you RogerC for mentioning MAJOR DUNDEE -- one of my all-time favorite movies: "We are about to engage the pride of Europe!"

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 6:10 a.m. PST

The OP mentioned Cameron in the first paragraph of his blog link.

RogerC21 Jun 2022 11:35 a.m. PST

Thanks Mad Guru, Major Dundee is very much one of my all time faves despite the lovely French Lancers who were never really there. Wouldnt a four way scenario with Jauristas, French, Apache and US/CS Cavalry be fun!

the 160th anniversary is certainly a good aiming point for a game so I will keep that one in mind as start to get a few painted up.

DinOfBattle2 Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 11:53 a.m. PST

What a great period to wargame!

I missed out on getting Puebla on the table in time for the anniversary, but may run it anyway later this year.

Good luck on the project!



Mad Guru Supporting Member of TMP21 Jun 2022 4:45 p.m. PST


I hope you manage it!


Nick Stern ran a game just as you describe! It was at a Northern California convention some years ago, which I sadly did not travel North to attend. I will have to ask him if he still has the scenario materials…

Nick Stern Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2022 7:56 a.m. PST

It's a great period. I used to have collections in three scales, but I sold my 15mm miniatures. But I still have 25mm and 54mm. I ran a 54mm Camerone game on it's 159th anniversary.


Nick Stern Supporting Member of TMP23 Jun 2022 8:00 a.m. PST

Mad Guru,
Eric and I shared a lot of information on Puebla when we were preparing our games. We went with different versions of the Piquet rules.

KSmyth23 Jun 2022 9:33 p.m. PST

I know there are lots of rules to choose from, but if you're doing Camerone, I'd encourage Howard Whitehouse's Wooden Hand of Captain Danjou. Available at Wargames Vault.

RogerC24 Jun 2022 3:14 a.m. PST

Thanks Chaps. I wasnt aiming for Camerone specifically, initially this is a Sharp Practice project aimed at generic small actions. It MAY (read probably will) develop at some point into something larger where Piquet type rules might be a good option. For the moment 24 or so of each major troop type gets me where I want to be. Add some skirmishers, bandits, Contras, cavalry etc and I have plenty of options for smaller games. Of course by then I can maybe put them all on table and have a brigade per side anyway for larger games.

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