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uglyfatbloke30 Mar 2022 8:05 a.m. PST

SWMBO just completed my VC coy; used Vallejo matt varnish and they came up a bit glossy, so she tried AK Matte varnish (varnish shaken thoroughly in both cases) and it has made vey little difference if at all. Any suggestions? We can't find dulcote here.

rustymusket30 Mar 2022 8:48 a.m. PST

Army Painter has an Anti-Shine spray, I think that is the name. If that is available to you. Also, Krypton has a matt spray I had success with.

JimDuncanUK30 Mar 2022 9:04 a.m. PST

Winsor & Newton Artists Acrylic Matt Varnish.

Best there is.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP30 Mar 2022 9:54 a.m. PST

Very partial to Krylon Matte. Haven't tried Windsor & Newton, but it's a very respectable name.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP30 Mar 2022 10:32 a.m. PST

Brush on Modge Podge matte.

Titchmonster30 Mar 2022 11:20 a.m. PST

Testors Matte will kill any shine. It's crystal clear

Phillius Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Mar 2022 12:57 p.m. PST

I always finish my varnishing with a spray of Army Painter Anti Shine. Preceded by a gloss varnish spray, followed by a matt varnish spray. So three coats in total.

John Leahy Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Mar 2022 2:49 p.m. PST

Windsor and Newton Professional matte spray. Dick Blick carries it. Outstanding product.

Thanks

John

Personal logo jrbatso Supporting Member of TMP30 Mar 2022 6:56 p.m. PST

Another testimony for Windsor & Newton Professional Matte Spray.

dragon6 Supporting Member of TMP30 Mar 2022 7:22 p.m. PST

I like Krylon Matte.

CeruLucifus31 Mar 2022 1:03 a.m. PST

Started using Liquitex Matte Varnish. Has to be thoroughly mixed.

Garryowen Supporting Member of TMP31 Mar 2022 6:58 a.m. PST

I agree with the comments above on the Winsor & Newton.

I have been using clear flat spray on figures since Dullcote first came out. I have been painting wargame figures since at least the early 60s. The cans kept getting smaller and the price higher.

Then some years ago I started having trouble with it not always drying flat. People attributed that to temperature (too high or too low), too much humidity, too thick of a coat, too soon after my gloss clear coat, too soon after my paint job, and to a change in formula due to meeting EU standards.

Other people said it always worked for them.

I tried a number of others, just about every other clear flat spray with only mixed results.

Then I tried Winsor & Newton Professional Matt Spray Varnish. I started using it at least as early as 2017.

Here are the results after spraying 100s of figures and lots of vehicles, buildings, earthworks and other terrain pieces.

Temperature in the 40s F – dried flat.
Temperature in the low 90s F – dried flat.
Humidity 92 per cent – dried flat.
Thick coat – dried flat.
Thin coat – dried flat.
Sprayed clear gloss (Krylon or Rustoleum) at 1:30 pm and W/N Matt at 4:00 pm, same day, – dried flat.

It has never, ever failed me.

My experience with clear sprays made in the US is that "matt" or "matte" usually means semi-gloss or satin. W/N is made in Britain and matt means perfectly flat.

I buy it from from Dick Blick. The price is very good with their standard discount. Whenever I have compared it to Dullcote, W/N was always much cheaper per ounce.

Here is a link to the product at Dick Blick:

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Don't be put off by the warning that the paint has to dry for at least 6-12 months before applying the product to the paint. That may be for artists oils which take an extremely long time to thoroughly dry unless a drier is added. I do it within hours of my gloss coat which I put on the day after I finish my painting.

I sent Winsor & Newton an email asking about shelf life as I intended to buy six cans at a time. The response indicated that the question was interpreted to mean a can that had been started. The answer was that there was no known shelf life limitation. What I bought in April of 2020 is still fine.

If you try it, I hope your results are as good as mine.

***Note. Winsor & Newton also makes a General Purpose Matt Varnish. It is a different product. Cheaper it seems. My experience is only with the Winsor & Newton Professional Matt Spray Varnish.

Tom

uglyfatbloke31 Mar 2022 10:27 a.m. PST

W&N in a bottle arrived to day and has made a huge difference – oddly (it seems to me) the darker colours were most affected, though I'd have thought the reverse would be the case.
Obliged fr all your help folks….SWMBO is very pleased too!

Gray Bear31 Mar 2022 3:37 p.m. PST

Agree with Garryowen. I dropped Dulcoat and went with W&N Professional Matte Spray Varnish a few years ago after reading about its merits here on TMP. It is very good and I have zero complaints about the product. I also get it from Dick Blick.

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