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Tango0121 Jan 2022 9:07 p.m. PST

"Marshal Emmanuel de Grouchy was a skilled cavalry officer who had a long career of service in the French army. This record has been overshadowed by accusations – originating with Napoleon and his followers on Saint Helena – that Marshal Grouchy was in large part responsible for Napoleon's defeat at the Battle of Waterloo in 1815. After Waterloo, Grouchy went into exile in the United States, where he began the frustrating process of defending himself against allegations of incompetence, cowardice and treachery.

Emmanuel de Grouchy was born on October 23, 1766 at his family's palatial Château de Villette in Condécourt, 40 km northwest of Paris. His parents – François-Jacques de Grouchy, 1st Marquis de Grouchy, and Marie-Gilberte Fréteau de Pény – were members of the French nobility. François-Jacques had served as a page to King Louis XV. Marie-Gilbert was known for her learning and intelligence. The family spent winters in Paris, where they hosted the intellectual elite of the day…"
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15th Hussar22 Jan 2022 7:16 a.m. PST

Nice article, Armand… Thanks

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2022 2:14 p.m. PST

What a great story. If he had stayed on he could have commanded the relief army for the defenders of the Alamo siege.

Actually, maybe not the best idea.

Poor devil. The more you read of the exchanges between him and Boney over the 72 hours around Waterloo, you realise just how incompetent was the Staff of the Emperor. Grouchy, forget chasing the Prussians. I need one third of my army between me and the Prussians so the two armies cannot unite. I am here, anywhere on my Eastern flank will do. This is not rocket science to phrase it that simply. Never mind "Draw near in order to etc"

Tango0122 Jan 2022 3:10 p.m. PST

A votre service mon ami…


Grouchy did well when he retired to Paris…


Then… he resigned…. not good for France in that moment…


He cleary show what would be with the Marshalls without Napoleon…

Nobody could take his post… even Davout…

Armand

Regicide164903 Feb 2022 3:04 p.m. PST

So you blame Ney for Waterloo? Pah! The Red One gave all; Grouchy served three kings, a directory, a consulate, an emperor and now a president. He is Fouche on a horse!

Agree with you, actually, but love Rod Steiger shouting 'Where is Grouchy?' in the Waterloo movie.

42flanker04 Feb 2022 7:21 a.m. PST

Grouchy served three kings, a directory, a consulate, an emperor and now a president

That might suggest the career of a professional soldier at the service of France.

Tango0104 Feb 2022 3:11 p.m. PST

(smile)


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