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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP12 Jan 2022 9:03 p.m. PST

…to Global Security?

"When the Taliban took over Afghanistan at the end of August 2021—an event precipitated by the withdrawal of all remaining US troops in the country—questions about the Taliban's ability to target the Western world and fears that Afghanistan would become a haven for al-Qaeda arose immediately in the minds of many government officials and non-government observers. Such concerns were well-grounded. Since the 11 September 2001, terrorist attacks in the United States, numerous franchises have formed in various parts of the world, and one of them was al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI), which evolved into today's the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) terrorist organization. Both al-Qaeda and ISIS have not only competed to be the caliph of Islamic world through the pursuit of utopian ideologies but they also have sought to target the Western world. This article analyzes the capacity of ISIS and al-Qaeda in terms of operational and organizational capabilities, use of violence, geographical expansion, and ideological inspiration for lone actors to determine which group—ISIS or al-Qaeda—is the greater threat to global security…"
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Striker12 Jan 2022 10:41 p.m. PST

That's like asking which is your favorite child. They both have their special qualities that make them unique and it's tough to pick one over the other.

Legion 413 Jan 2022 9:33 a.m. PST

Yes, those radical, fundamentalists, fanatics, religiously based & driven are still a threat. Until they change their corrupted medieval belief system. We may see leaving A'stan could be a problem in the future. As AQ is regrouping with the Taliban's "blessings". They real are the same thing.

AQ still wants to get all infidels out of molsem lands, etc. That won't happen for a number of reasons. But they will still try.

ISIS-K in A'stan are not interested in killing outside of that failed state. They just Taliban that thought the Taliban were not radical enough.

ISIS in Iraq and Syria has been significantly been attrited. Their dream of the "Caliphate" is gone … probably forever. They don't have the ability to strike out of that region.

Both AQ & ISIS may radicalize locals on the internet, etc. But since both have been largely set back in their goals. So they may not have the sway with other moslems as they once did.

Even if the Taliban & AQ are claiming victory in A'stan. Everyone sees again that failed state is a Hell on Earth created but radicals like the Taliban, AQ, and ISIS. Albeit many "jihadi" types have flock to the "Paradise" created by fanatics like the Taliban, etc.

Bottomline … these type have to be watched closely as they are planning to strike the infidels again. Be proactive … not reactive.

There are about 3000 ISIS including their families who are all radicalize in that medieval dogma. They are in Iraq and/or Syria, AFAIK. These types can't be ever released. They are not like the Germans of IJFs that could go back to a peaceful existence. Those ISIS and AQ types need to be charged with a number of crimes. And hopefully executed. The others that are not directly found guilty. Should be sent to the modern version of "Devil's Island" i.e. Gitmo. They will probably have a higher quality of life there then from where they came from.

Of course the world community would have to pitch in to pay for this. But again, none of those ISIS and their radicalized families cannot be free to wage their jihad against the rest of the world.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2022 11:30 a.m. PST

A better question might be who is the greater threat to each other

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2022 2:32 p.m. PST

(smile)

Armand

Legion 413 Jan 2022 2:40 p.m. PST

A better question might be who is the greater threat to each other
Without a doubt … they kill many more of each other than the West does. Hope they kill many of each other often and in large numbers …


But it only takes a few radicalized local fanatics to run people over with a truck, etc.

But again … we have to keep eyes on these types and not be afraid to stop something before it happens …

Legion 415 Jan 2022 2:46 p.m. PST

Looks like we have our answer … an AQ affiliated terrorist is holding 4 hostages in a TX synagogue. As I type this …

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP15 Jan 2022 3:01 p.m. PST

I've been told that parents that want a say in their child's/childrens' education are the REAL threat, since they are apparently now considered by some to be "domestic terrorists" rather than concerned citizens, so I guess it depends upon your point of view.

From what I've heard and read, ISIS is more radical, but AQ and others (PLO, BLM, etc.) are of major concern too.

Legion 415 Jan 2022 3:12 p.m. PST

IMO … any radical islamic terrorist/jihadi is a threat. But yes, it seems the USA's priorities on who is a terrorist is again misguided.

IMO … the real domestic terrorists are the Antifa thuds that show up dressed in all black, attack LEOs, burn, destroy, etc. There should be some space in Gitmo reserved for these types.

Legion 416 Jan 2022 12:18 p.m. PST

As we see last night the first of AQ attacks on the USA may have begun. Another wave of terrorists/jihadis may be on the way. Made easier with an open Southern Border. Fortunately, FBI SWAT sent this "jihadi" to the other side with no hostage losses or otherwise. Their plan to get "Lady AQ" released was a fool's errand from the start.

She went to US schools, became a scientist, got radicalized after 9/11. And planned bio, etc., attacks on the US. She will never see the light of day. At least for 86 years. Regardless of what many radicals, etc., say in Pakistan and elsewhere in the moslem world who support terrorism/jihadis.

We see what happens when 3 jihadis were release by a former POTUS for a US Army POW. Those same 3 jihadis are now in the Taliban/AQ hierarchy … Lessons learned … never … never release terrorists. Gitmo has a lot of room.

Also lessons learned – don't shutdown Gitmo. I hope our current leaders will learn from the past.

Legion 417 Jan 2022 8:00 a.m. PST

Looks like 2-3 radical islamists in the UK supported, etc. this AQ anti-Semitic terrorism in TX. Appears the UK LEOs took them into custody.

As I said with those radical islamists, i.e. Taliban, AQ and even ISIS-K, easily taking over A'stan. It emboldened home grown jihadis, to do terrorists acts against the infidels, which is most of the rest of the world. These islamic fanatics, who are a minority overall, don't have to leave A'stan, etc.

This attack on a Jew Temple was from the UK. He was a local AFAIK.

But again, with our open Southern Border, some on the terrorist watch list, etc. have already been caught. However, like with many other illegal aliens. Who knows how many have not been caught and made it into the interior of the USA ?

Again, this may be the first of a number AQ, etc., attacks here in the US or even Europe. The islamic terrorists have to get it … "Lady AQ" a raging anti-Semite and Anti-USA, she will rot in a US prison, until she dies. Nothing they can do to change this.

Well US intel, LEOs, etc. need to spend more time going after AQ, etc., terrorists/jihadis. Then "domestic terrorists", white supremacists, etc.

"We have met the enemy … and dey is us !" …

Again as noted, "ISIS and/or al-Qaeda are the greater threat to global security…" Get it … That includes the USA … Remember 9/11 …

Thresher01 Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2022 3:28 p.m. PST

Yes, the Antifa Terr's are a definite domestic terrorist threat too, just like BLM, and much more dangerous and deadly than some protestors being held as political prisoners, in solitary confinement in our country currently.

Interesting that the FBI had to flip-flop so quickly after the TX debacle they got themselves in 24 hours before. Apparently, Joe didn't get the message from them.

Legion 417 Jan 2022 4:13 p.m. PST

Agree with you on all points …

Legion 418 Jan 2022 10:02 a.m. PST

Errata:

This attack on a Jew Temple
That should read Jewish Temple … I think slower than I type or vis versa …

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