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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian20 Dec 2021 8:39 p.m. PST

Which historical general of Mexican heritage would you rate as the best?

Greylegion21 Dec 2021 4:12 a.m. PST

Hmmmm…..

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martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Dec 2021 4:18 a.m. PST

Emiliano Zapata in my opinion.
A great leader, great patriot and great man all round. With the usual caveats of mortals.


martin

rustymusket Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2021 5:02 a.m. PST

I only know Santa Anna, so I would not be knowledgeable enough to vote.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2021 7:06 a.m. PST

Zapata was very good – I personally like José Cosme de Urrea y Elías González (José de Urrea) who was one of Santa Anna's generals – he never lost a battle during the Texas Revolution, unlike his boss!

Makhno191821 Dec 2021 7:09 a.m. PST

I like Zapata's politics a lot and he sure was effective in Morales, but I don't think he was particularly successful outside of his own territory right? Villa certainly had a long and celebrated career, displaying cunning and creativity, though had trouble adapting to new tactics and tools (coming from wwi in Europe I believe?) which proved effective against cavalry charges. I'm not sure Villa ever adapted to it properly. I hate to say it (because i prefer Villa and Zapata's politics) but Obragon may have been the best general in the Mexican Rev. I'm not nearly well-versed enough in other Mexican wars to comment more, but I'm interested to learn.

Jeff Caruso21 Dec 2021 7:27 a.m. PST

Obregon

Deucey Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2021 7:30 a.m. PST

Xicotencatl II

0ldYeller21 Dec 2021 8:40 a.m. PST

I would have to go with Obregon as well.

martin goddard Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Dec 2021 8:50 a.m. PST

A good discussion.

I have rated Zapata highly because he did particularly well with the troops he had (a peasant army).

Obregon had the advantage of money and professionals to give his army a base skeleton. Zapata had none of this, making him exceptional in my opinion.


martin

ChrisBrantley21 Dec 2021 9:40 a.m. PST

As a military and political strategist, the consensus seems to be Obregon. As a tactician on the battlefield, maybe Mariano Escobedo.

MrZorro21 Dec 2021 3:25 p.m. PST

My vote goes to Ignacio Zaragoza, with around 700 men he defeated 6,500 French invaders during the 1st French invasion of Mexico in 1862. Viva 5 de Mayo!

Prince Alberts Revenge21 Dec 2021 9:26 p.m. PST

Not sure who was the best in the Mexican American War. Urrea perhaps? He seemed fairly competent in the Texas War of Independence, I know he commanded cavalry in the MAW but I'm not sure how he did in that war. I know that Santa Anna and Urrea were a bit of rivals since the former was jealous of the latter's popularity.

Little Red23 Dec 2021 1:45 p.m. PST

Obregon, heck he beat them all but you gotta love Pancho Villa for pure audacity.

Richard Baber24 Dec 2021 3:47 a.m. PST

Obregon

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