Editor in Chief Bill | 23 Nov 2021 7:20 a.m. PST |
You were asked – TMP link Should the USS John C. Stennis be renamed, considering the known beliefs of the man for whom the ship is named? 46% said "yes, rename the ship" 23% said "no, do not rename the ship" 14% said "it is bad luck to rename a ship" |
Cardinal Ximenez | 23 Nov 2021 5:29 p.m. PST |
Sure. Combine it with a campaign to rename Yale University. |
Legion 4 | 23 Nov 2021 6:54 p.m. PST |
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Cardinal Ximenez | 23 Nov 2021 7:22 p.m. PST |
For that matter why is Wilson's name still on the I-95/I-495 bridge in DC. Is it a memorial to the president who resegregated the US armed forces? Screened Birth of a Nation at the White House? |
Bunkermeister | 23 Nov 2021 7:35 p.m. PST |
We honor our historical figures not for the bad things they did but for the good things. George Washington owned slaves but he freed other Americans from the British. Lee fought for Virginia during the Civil War but he fought the war with honor and surrendered and ended the war rather than fight on in an insurgency, he did good work after the war. Crazy Horse fought against the US Army but he is part of our common heritage as Americans and so we should celebrate his bravery and loyalty to his people. We need to take the focus off the things that divide us and focus on celebrating our American history together. Mike Bunkermeister Creek |
Stryderg | 23 Nov 2021 9:07 p.m. PST |
You need to get with the new paradigm, we cancel people for a single slip up. No mercy, no grace, no forgiveness, just vengeance and shame. We should rename it the USS City of Lights, has a nice, non-threatening, ticking off the check-boxes kind of vibe. |
Striker | 23 Nov 2021 11:15 p.m. PST |
Nope "City of Lights" perpetuates the light pollution problem and is a nod to big electricity and their coal polluting pals. Just start naming them "ship 1", "ship 2", etc. |
Mr Steve | 24 Nov 2021 4:07 a.m. PST |
Don't think you can do that either. All the sails-persons not on Ship 1 will feel inferior and undervalued and will therefore need prolonged and extensive counselling rendering the rest of the fleet in-operative. |
Zyphyr | 24 Nov 2021 9:30 a.m. PST |
We can always go with Ship 1, Ship A, Ship Alpha, Ship Aleph, etc… |
Andy ONeill | 24 Nov 2021 11:13 a.m. PST |
Ship 1; Ship 1; Ship 1 There are no losers, only winners. Everyone is equal |
Wackmole9 | 24 Nov 2021 11:30 a.m. PST |
It was a horrible idea to name ships after persons. We have plenty of great Carrier names to choice from already. |
Tortorella | 24 Nov 2021 11:33 a.m. PST |
We have plenty of ordinary sailors who have given their lives for us in action, made heroic sacrifices. Those are the names to honor. They would inspire people to serve and understand commitment. Then it would not be a joke either. |
Stryderg | 24 Nov 2021 12:06 p.m. PST |
Hmm. Yes I see the problem. I think Tortorella has a great solution. |
Virtualscratchbuilder | 24 Nov 2021 12:26 p.m. PST |
How about "the 8th Newport News Nuclear Carrier". |
Robert Burke | 24 Nov 2021 8:18 p.m. PST |
Bunkermeister, you make way too much sense for the modern day. |
Heedless Horseman | 24 Nov 2021 9:36 p.m. PST |
Why fixate on naming ships after persons? There is a multitude of possible names for ships… or bases… which are apolitical in any context. States, Cities, Districts… many have a fine record of service already. Native Fauna… Grizzly, Lynx, Cougar…down to the Critters… (Some candidates for those! lol). Flora… Sequoia, Bristlecone, Sage, Saguaro… Avians… Bald Eagle down to small craft names. Geography… Mountains, Lakes, Rivers… Atmospheric phenomina… Etc. To Honour persons, they could be adopted as a 'Motivator'… "This Ship / Base Honours the Service of…" internally, special to the personnel. Well, just some thoughts. |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 24 Nov 2021 9:47 p.m. PST |
I'm with Tortorella. Too bad the Royal Navy took all the good adjectives. If we went that way, we'd be stuck with the USS Peculiar. |
Zephyr1 | 24 Nov 2021 9:52 p.m. PST |
Ships should be able to choose their own names! /sarcasm off ;-p |
Legion 4 | 25 Nov 2021 7:28 p.m. PST |
We have plenty of ordinary sailors who have given their lives for us in action, made heroic sacrifices. Those are the names to honor. That makes too much sense … And there is no political capital with certain groups. |
Prince Alberts Revenge | 26 Nov 2021 5:53 p.m. PST |
I don't like the fact any naval ship is named after a politician. If the politician served in the military and earned it for some feat of gallantry that would be another matter. I don't recall Stennis serving in the military. I'd prefer ships not to be named after individuals at all but if you must then do it for those that were actually in the Navy. |