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swammeyjoe17 Nov 2021 12:15 p.m. PST

I've preordered the Epic Battles Waterloo set from Warlord and am wondering if either of the campaign guides put out by ESR would have useful references for uniforms?

There's a France 1814 Guide, which has plates have French & Prussian (the next force that Warlord plan to release) uniforms from that year. Would those color schemes work for units that fought at Waterloo? Anything I should look out for?

There's also a Peninsular 1808 book. I know the British changed their shako and cavalry headgear (and wore more grey pants than white), but would the facings/lace/etc references
still be useful for 1815-era figures? I'm going to happily use the figures to refight Peninsular actions, but I'd still like to paint them mostly correct to their 1815-selves.

And of course, keep in mind that all of this will be done on a 12.5mm scale figure.

4th Cuirassier17 Nov 2021 12:41 p.m. PST

There's a France 1814 Guide, which has plates have French & Prussian (the next force that Warlord plan to release) uniforms from that year. Would those color schemes work for units that fought at Waterloo? Anything I should look out for?

Yes, they'd mostly be the same. A minor thing to watch out for would be that both armies might be slightly better equipped in 1815 than in 1814. There'd been a year of peace in which supplies could get from depot to front line.

Another thing to watch out for was that between 1814 and 1815, the Prussian former reserve and various free and foreign corps were taken into the line and numbered 12 to 31 . It appears their attire didn't change much in the time available but the numbering did.

would the facings/lace/etc references still be useful for 1815-era figures?

Yes they would – with the proviso that few units in the Peninsula were also present in 1815. So while the facings didn't change, the units involved did. Here's a list of every regiment:

link

You can't go far wrong with yellow, green or dark blue, which were the commonest colours by far.

Wikipedia has a good order of battle for Waterloo so if you have a scan of that it will tell you what units were present.

Arlecchino572719 Nov 2021 10:56 a.m. PST

Uniforms of Waterloo in Colour, June 16-18, 1815 by Philip Haythornwaite is also worth a look, and I think it is still possible to find copies.

WKeyser23 Nov 2021 5:22 a.m. PST

There are most of the unifomrs on the centjours mont saint jean site. You click on organizations then which army you want then Corps, then Division etc until you get the unit in questions. I have been using this for my Waterloo project.


centjours.mont-saint-jean.com

Camcleod23 Nov 2021 8:37 a.m. PST

The mont saint jean site is the place to go for Waterloo uniforms. The only ones that are bit questionable are some of the Hanoverian Line Bns.

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