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79thPA Supporting Member of TMP02 Nov 2021 9:41 a.m. PST

The first fixed-wing aircraft operate off a Japanese carrier for the first time in 75 years.


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Escapee Supporting Member of TMP02 Nov 2021 2:31 p.m. PST

I am glad to see this friendly platform over there. Given China's attitude, this certainly looks like a defensive weapon and helps allies as well. The original Izumo was a light cruiser that was at Tsushima and was not sunk until 1945.

arealdeadone02 Nov 2021 2:54 p.m. PST

A carrier is never a defensive weapon. It is always an offensive weapon. Hence Japanese aren't allowed to operate them (the Izumo is classified as a multipurpose destroyer to circumvent this).


Japan has plenty of defensive weapons – 300+ modern fighters (F-2/F-15/F-35), ton of SAMs, 100 odd maritime patrol aircraft, extensive sensor capability including large numbers AWACS/AEW&C, dozens of warships and 22 submarines.


The carrier's role is unclear for the time being.


It lacks the aircraft numbers to operate over Japanese controlled uninhabited islands near China where Chinese could swarm long range Su-27/-30/J-11/J-16s and J-20 stealth fighters.

The ship and its escorts would also be very close to Chinese land based and ship based long range antishipping missiles (F-35B is too shortlegged).


It also lacks certain key capabilities – airborne AEW&C, aerial refuelling, aerial reconnaissance (F-35s aren't kitted out for this and lack range).

These kind of pocket carriers seem best for expeditionary warfare against low tech opponents.

Oddball02 Nov 2021 3:45 p.m. PST

Cool story, been awhile since a Japanese carrier was on the seas.

How good? Who knows, I hope we never have to find out.

Escapee Supporting Member of TMP02 Nov 2021 6:41 p.m. PST

Ardo – Historically carriers are offensive as tactical weapons. I was thinking of strategic purposes for this one. With its limited operational capacity I don't think it really crosses the line. Just my opinion.

At 27,000 tons and equipped for not much, as you state, this ship perhaps has a support role in the region at best, but if it gives China something to think about, it has a purpose.

Zephyr102 Nov 2021 9:02 p.m. PST

I foresee it operating as a convoy escort…

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian03 Nov 2021 5:34 a.m. PST

Perhaps it is just a test bed and a learning lab for future true capability carriers. I don't think it would take them 16+ years to build and deploy one. Izumo went from keel laying to commission in a little more than three years.

Murvihill03 Nov 2021 7:21 a.m. PST

The idea that a weapon is offensive but not defensive is kind of silly anyway.

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