Parzival | 21 Sep 2021 7:40 p.m. PST |
…and they look kinda familiar…
And of course there's the insignia…
They know exactly who they're recruiting.
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zircher | 21 Sep 2021 7:57 p.m. PST |
Sigh, if I was young again, I so would sign up for that branch instead. [Although the USAF did treat me well for 12 years.] |
Stryderg | 22 Sep 2021 4:57 a.m. PST |
Somebody is going to have a side gig selling rank insignia at Sci-Fi conventions. |
cmdr kevin | 22 Sep 2021 5:56 a.m. PST |
I am getting this kind of vibe from it;
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Ferd45231 | 22 Sep 2021 6:12 a.m. PST |
Jimmy Fallon commented by saying that every doorman in NYC is saying, "Wait, am I in Space Force?". H |
Dave Jackson | 22 Sep 2021 7:37 a.m. PST |
Battlestar Galactica… link |
79thPA | 22 Sep 2021 7:48 a.m. PST |
Good point, Stryderg. Couldn't we have come up with something better than "Space Force"? How do you make a gig line with diagonal buttons? |
Louie N | 22 Sep 2021 9:18 a.m. PST |
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Augustus | 22 Sep 2021 9:27 a.m. PST |
Honestly, that looks cool. Way better than the tired USAF blues. |
Inch High Guy | 22 Sep 2021 9:33 a.m. PST |
I wonder what their cammies will look like. All black with LEDs scattered around? |
Wackmole9 | 22 Sep 2021 9:46 a.m. PST |
WoW another way to waste money that doesn't make the USA one iota safer. Thanks Space Force |
John the OFM | 22 Sep 2021 10:57 a.m. PST |
They look like Patton's silly design for tanker uniforms. No leather football helmet? |
javelin98 | 22 Sep 2021 11:00 a.m. PST |
I actually prefer that enlisted rank to the USAF's weird wavy-line chevrons. But I'm Army, so that's to be expected. |
gregmita2 | 22 Sep 2021 11:07 a.m. PST |
…and they look kinda familiar… I think we've talked about this before. The Air Force was there first with the delta insignia, and NASA (and later Star Trek) was inspired by that. Uniforms with wraparound jackets also have quite a long history, especially with honour guards, which was where valets, doormen, etc. got their inspiration. They look like Patton's silly design for tanker uniforms Patton had the same source of inspiration. Star Trek, of course. :)
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Parzival | 22 Sep 2021 11:51 a.m. PST |
Doesn't matter what uniforms came before. They're clearly mimicking late 20th-21st century SF media, because fans of that media will definitely include the demographic they need— nerds. Space Force isn't about drawing weapons or kicking down doors. It's about orbital mechanics, satellite trajectories, sub-orbital ballistics, and quite literally rocket science. They need imaginative thinkers and the analytically minded— and if letting them think they're dressed like Captain Kirk will help bring ‘em in, then they'll dress ‘em like Captain Kirk. What, you don't think the uniforms draw in recruits to the US Navy and the Marine Corps? Sure as shootin', they do. There is no question that warfare will very soon extend into space, and the US had damn well be ready to fight it and win it when it does. The other forces as they stand are concerned about space, but only as secondary support for their primary interests, which are land, sea, or air. A dedicated force whose emphasis is specifically space is an absolute necessity; it can not be allocated to second hand status, because doing so is How You Lose a War. If military history hasn't taught us all that, what the heck are we learning from our gaming? The greatest advantage in any battle is to hold the high ground. There is no higher ground than space. So while I am mildly amused by the insignia and uniforms' similarities to well-known SF media imagery and costumes, I actually think it's a brilliant approach, for a division of the military which needs to have the top minds in its area of operation. And I think that's a good thing for the other divisions as well— let the Navy be the Navy, let the Army be the Army, let the Air Force be the Air Force, the Marines be the Marines and the Coast Guard be the Coast Guard, each concentrating on their specific areas of concern as they should, yet also working in concert and mutual support. And the Space Force should be a welcome addition to that grouping, for all involved. |
Shagnasty | 22 Sep 2021 12:10 p.m. PST |
Well said Parzival. It is that working together that seems to be in short supply these days. |
dapeters | 22 Sep 2021 12:33 p.m. PST |
Another excuse to waste tax payers money. |
troopwo | 22 Sep 2021 12:39 p.m. PST |
"I wonder what their cammies will look like." How do you blend in at a Star Bucks? |
troopwo | 22 Sep 2021 12:41 p.m. PST |
I kind of like the term "orbital ranks" for the denior nco's. Will the officer ranks have a "cadet"? |
gregmita2 | 22 Sep 2021 12:55 p.m. PST |
@Parzival Totally agree on the importance of a sharp uniform and the importance of the Space Force itself. Although I'm guessing the similarity to sci-fi franchises is mostly coincidental, or roundabout (the Star Trek dress uniform was probably influenced by historical uniforms, just like this Space Force design). If it helps, it helps though. However…
It's about orbital mechanics, satellite trajectories, sub-orbital ballistics, and quite literally rocket science. They need imaginative thinkers and the analytically minded— First of all, I would hope military officers, no matter the branch, should already be imaginative and analytical thinkers. Those are important no matter the area of operations. That's an issue with the general culture of the military, as opposed to a specific branch. Secondly, I actually think most sci-fi nerds are a terrible fit for "understanding orbital mechanics, etc." There is far too much naval fiction in space sci-fi, and too little real science. People used to those paradigms will need to unlearn all that to deal with real operations in space. You may be better off starting from scratch than with those preconceived notions. There is a subset of nerds who can fit in well of course, the "hard sci-fi" types, but they tend to already be engineers or some similar related profession. |
DyeHard | 22 Sep 2021 2:14 p.m. PST |
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