"China 'Edges Closer' To War With The U.S." Topic

"CHINA is "edging closer" to war with the US over Taiwan, according to the former deputy director of MI6, who warned that Beijing is concluding that "peaceful efforts are no longer possible".

China is close to concluding that its attempts to take over Taiwan will only work "through military efforts". The ex-deputy director of MI6 Nigel Inkster told LBC this morning that the likelihood of military confrontation between China and the US was "as high as eight, on a scale of one to ten".

On Friday, Taiwan's air force scrambled to warn away 10 Chinese aircraft that entered its air defence zone…"
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Why US is afraid to go to war with China

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President Biden's Suggestion Of A Face-To-Face Summit With Chinese President Xi Jinping Was Refused

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Armand

China is playing with fire. But then again

That can't be right, war with China was supposed to be the fault of the previous occupant of the White House, we were only saved by the quick action of our generals.

Someone has the narrative confused.

Mike Bunkermeister Creek

Weakness invites aggression, as we've seen in WWII and elsewhere.

The former President kept the PRC guessing. He was unpredictable and that scared them. Biden is very predictable. It is there the danger lies.

Meanwhile the average university student is far more concerned with and indignant about personal pronouns.

Yes but the people in the US Military know the right words.

NavyVet… right there about . 80s… Reagan / Thatcher were loose cannons… very scary… did not 'like' either, but no WW3.
Predict the 'moves' and halfway there.

'Sensibly' retaking Falklands…?

Putin… predictable..within parameters. Chinese.. less so due to 'factions'… but 'economic 'long game' anyway. That N Korean Nut… ?

It is getting to be a scary world again. Sometimes, a scary Dog is a safeguard.

China is the fault of China. New trans pacific strategic changes, our military is better than China's, not worried about these bloggers' opinions, Tango.

Hi Chicoms. Good luck getting across the Taiwan straight. Numerous ASBM bases offshore and a heck of a lot of highly effective troops and airmen to deal with before you get it. Good luck. Chang Kai Shek defeated the Japanese while you sat back, you couldn't defeat Vietnam. Doubt you can defeat Taiwan. Good luck tho. LOL.

"Yes but the people in the US Military know the right words".

Sadly, that is much of the problem, since many in our military of today seem to be more worried about politically correct words and dogma than fighting and defeating our enemies, and winning wars.

Alas, even more sadly, they are having the new recruits focus on this too, instead of learning how to fight to stay alive, and to win.

On the plus side, I am please to see that China is annoyed, since that means that this new strategy worries them, and they need to take note of it, and measures to combat it. That IS half the battle.

Rumors that Taiwan and Japan want in on the SSN procurement deal are thus far unconfirmed.

I seriously doubt there will be a fight. As I always say, Biden will give it to them, despite recent rhetoric. But if China wanted a fight, their air force could clear the way vs Taiwan's defenses but the sealift will be their weak link.

I worry about Taiwan as a potential flash point. I try to remember that China always plays a long game. Why take any risk when you know that eventually it will fall into your possession in time?

I really think it's certain Western defence types ratcheting up the situation over Taiwan. The current Chinese actions over Taiwan are not that dissimilar to Russian actions in Baltic Sea.

Let's not forget there were full fledged artillery duels and and dog fights over Taiwan Strait right up to 1960s.

The Chinese won't risk actual conflict.

It's one thing to fly a fighter squadron over the Strait and another to start an actual war.

Will the U.S. Navy Defend Taiwan From China?

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Can't argue with that …

I doubt that the PRC/CCP will start a war anytime soon with the USA. Albeit they are prepping "for the next war" …

However, the current situation i.e. the USA's leadership, the Border, COVID, A'stan, inflation, etc., our nation is in. It would be a good time to start a war … with the "confused state" things are here and elsewhere in the world.

The PRC/CCP does not have to start a shoot'n war … Just load their Army dressed as tourists on commercial aircraft. Fly to Mexico and then just walk across the Border. Seems everybody else is doing it … 😲😫😁🤩

Well siad, Legion 4, and the terrorist ARE no doubt watching, and I imagine many ARE already here, or on their way.

No need to even provide proof of Covid vaccination if you come over the Southern Border, AND apparently no need to quarantine, get shots, etc., since illegals have more rights than American citizens and federal government workers.

Yes, terrorists may be and have been crossing the border. "They're heeeere !" …

Why would anyone close a border during a pandemic ? Because it is common sense.

Border enforcement is finally ramping up as we speak. This issue never gets fixed by any leader, just kicked down the road. They did quarantine them until it became a flood of displaced Haitians. And you don't need documents to enter here or anywhere else illegally.

Re timing of starting a war, I think we should not act like everything goes so well in China and Russia that they are ready to strike any time the USA hits some bumps in the road. Anybody want to bet on them in a war with with the US and Allies?

And you don't need documents to enter here or anywhere else illegally.

Bingo !

Anybody want to bet on them in a war with with the US and Allies?

Very messy … very, very messy … For everyone involved. Especially if WMDs start to get tossed around. Most likely won't happen… But …

Yes Legion, not very likely. I do not think they would risk it. They want to win in other ways.

Yes, they are students of their ancestor Sun Tzu … They can win without going to war. Their tactic seems just to buy everything. Next thing you know all the traffic signs are in Chinese …

"Border enforcement is finally ramping up as we speak".

Only because the TX governor IS taking matter into his own hands, and that of his law enforcement personnel.

The Homeland Security head is still lying better than Baghdad Bob EVER did back in the day, even when the latter said American military troops were on the moon, after denying they were in Baghdad and the airport there for a very long time.

CBP personnel ARE being pulled from various checkpoints to babysit, leaving numerous crossing points completely unmanned.

Thresher +1

I have not actually been there myself.

Me neither … but I've been on the border between the Koreas, West & East Germany and the coast line of Panama …

Does that count ? 🤔😏

How odd that NavyVet is dawghoused for saying "But then again Biden is the President, so who knows"….which I thought was actually the case, however disputed the national ballot result. OK, he might have been suggesting that that situation was less than ideal, but that is for interpretation.

Look at the snips from other postings above that did not lead to any censure. Oddly judged?

Thresher01: Come on down to Texas- our governor isn't doing anything other than publicity stunts as his approval sinks.

The Texas border cannot be secured- it's too big! Texas LEOs aren't doing jack- they are spread too thin with their actual jobs. It's just photo ops. CBP are the ones tightening up at crossing points, but again, the Texas/Mexico border is huge and understaffed. FWIW Biden is continuing some of Trump's orders, including rapid expulsion, but that doesn't fit easy political narratives for either side so it seems to be ignored.

The border has always been an enormous headache trying to balance two incompatible ideas- free trade and secure borders. Add in inept Texas government and a federal approach that shifts every 4-8 years and you get some fun times.

What does this have to do with China again? Is it just more political sniping at the president?

The Border was under control, just ask a CBP, ICE, Local LEOs, etc. Until the admin in DC changed in 2020 …

Anyone who can't see that or deny it better be careful not to trip over🦄💩 while going over the 🌈 looking for 🍭s & 🎈s …

Legion, it counts for a lot – and thank you.

But this border is not militarized. No clear parameters. Who has what mission? No plan. How does everyone link up? Where is the leadership? This has never been done well, IMO, no way this was set up to function well as a system to handle a crisis like Haiti.

China Is Accelerating Their Push To Replace The U.S. As The Top Superppower

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Armand

Legion, it counts for a lot – and thank you.

Well thank you very much, much appreciated. It was always not that way. As we know …

But this border is not militarized. No clear parameters. Who has what mission? No plan. How does everyone link up? Where is the leadership? This has never been done well, IMO, no way this was set up to function well as a system to handle a crisis like Haiti.

Yes but again … it was under control. Before Jan 2020. Again, just ask CBP, ICE, local LEOs, etc. But much of the media, big tech, etc., won't do that and again we all know why.

The control of the border has nothing to do with anything but the law and logistics. Even if all those trying to cross the border were white, blonde haired, blue eyed Nordics from, Norway, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, etc.

We all know why after Jan. 2020 why this entire disaster is occurring. But yet some still blame the leadership before Jan 2020. I just heard it again in a televised speech …

To say more I'll get DH'd …

BTW if the Swedish Bikini was crossing the border illegally, they can stay at my house. I am willing to make the sacrifice. I'm willing to take one for the team. 👙👙👙

China Is Accelerating Their Push To Replace The U.S. As The Top Superpower

Based on what is currently going on … it may have already happened. Expect to see all traffic, etc. signs in both English & Mandarin any time now. 🚗🚙🚐🚌🚚🚘🚖🚍🚲🛵🦽🛴

Legion: I may not agree entirely on the southern border, but taking in Swedish bikini refugees can only improve the nation. I volunteer to screen them.

My faith in our military over the Chinese is a matter of unwavering belief that we do this better than anyone when the chips are down. I respect our Allies, but we are who we are.

I worry more about Chinese diplomacy, propaganda, trust, economics. There are many things they do well that could hurt us.

I may not agree entirely on the southern border,

Note, I have nothing against these people from 140 countries trying to cross our border. Save for the criminals, terrorist, etc., of course. But the border has to be defended and controlled properly. Or you have no border/national security … What we have seen since Jan 2020 resembles nothing like a controlled border.

Bottom line if someone wants to become a US citizen they must do is correctly. Those in our gov't who don't understand that should not be in those elected or appointed positions. But yet … the are …

As far as the PRC/CCP … the letters CCP says in all for me. They know how to play the long game. The USA plays a game that only lasts 4-8 years. Of course I don't think that should change. But is seems at times there are problems with that system. But … That is for people much smarter than I to deal with.

taking in Swedish bikini refugees can only improve the nation. I volunteer to screen them.

Who wouldn't !?!? 😉😏

If the Chinese Evergrande property company collapses and throws the Chinese economy off a cliff, we could be in a war very very soon if the CCP decides to refocus attention elsewhere to detract from domestic woes arising from this.

A war might only add more domestic woes. They are looking for more subtle ways, I bet.

we could be in a war very very soon if the CCP decides to refocus attention elsewhere to detract from domestic woes arising from this.

Predators can sense weakness … 'nuff said …

Sikh's In The U.S. Marine Corps.

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Russia's Mighty S-500 Anti-Aircraft System Is No Joke

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China's Ruling Party Now Perceives Going To War As A Way To Strengthen CCP's Position

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Armand

Here is what I do know … the USA is waaay behind the power curve with our current leadership. Too busy going green, woke, CRT, etc., while the PRC/CCP & Putin go hypersonic …

China Carries Out First Successful Test Of Underwater Explosives That Could Destroy A US Port

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But yet the PRC/CCP says they are not prepping to go to war …

These Are The Taiwan War Scenarios

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China Says It Will Fire On US Troops That Come To Taiwan's Aid

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Both no surprise … But I'm very doubtful that Xi will invade and even fire in US troops that may be there. That is a tripwire that should not be crossed.

Well, I'm fairly certain that any expeditionary force coming to Taiwan's aid during an invasion would be rather surprised if they weren't fired at….

Doubt that is going to happen …