Tango01 | 15 Sep 2021 9:04 p.m. PST |
… Over The World" ""There's a celebration going on." Appearing on CBS News Sunday, the former CIA Director under Obama, while Biden was Vice President, admitted that the contemptuous actions of the now president in Afghanistan has injected new inspiration into terrorists all over the globe. "I think that the Taliban winning the war in Afghanistan, and then the way our exit happened, has absolutely inspired jihadists all over the world," Michael Morell said on Face The Nation. He added that the calamitous exit from the country means "there's a celebration going on."…" Main page link Armand |
Thresher01 | 16 Sep 2021 7:09 a.m. PST |
Yep, the war is NOT over, and the battlefield(s) is/are just being changed. Sadly, I fear "home games" in a lot of Western countries will be on tap due to this extremely misguided decision. With an open Southern Border, and the importation of 100,000+ Afghanis, many of whom may NOT be who they seem, the USA IS in more peril than just prior to the 9/11 attacks. |
Fitzovich | 16 Sep 2021 8:02 a.m. PST |
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Gorgrat | 16 Sep 2021 11:07 a.m. PST |
Why wouldn't it inspire them? Hey, those dudes are getting away with kicking America in the face! What the Hell's wrong with us? We need to step up our game too!!! |
Tango01 | 17 Sep 2021 3:32 p.m. PST |
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Tango01 | 17 Sep 2021 4:20 p.m. PST |
Russian President Putin Says America's Evacuation Of Troops From Afghanistan Looked More Like A ‘Downright Escape' Than A ‘Hasty Withdrawal' link
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Gorgrat | 17 Sep 2021 11:08 p.m. PST |
I'd have said a cowardly rush for the hills, but the Russians are so known for their kindness and gallantry. |
alexpainter | 18 Sep 2021 6:14 a.m. PST |
The same happened in the early '70s, with the failure in Vietnam, every ambitious nutjob tought that what had happened in that country could've been repeated also in the west. Naturally they were wrong, but the terrorism was really pushed forward by that disaster, remember CHE Guevara's slogan, 10,100,1000 Vietnam? Naturally for him and a LOT of imitators didn't end well,but the problem was very spread. And we can add also the religious factor, more dangerous than ideology(the former is very difficult to demolish) |
NavyVet | 18 Sep 2021 6:26 a.m. PST |
The terrorists will think what they want to think. After twenty years of being in a country longer than was needed it was time to go. If the Afghan government was unable to stand on its own so be it. The terrorists miscalculated before and they will again. |
Legion 4 | 18 Sep 2021 7:58 a.m. PST |
Regardless … jihadis are flocking to A'stan. And the jihadis/terrorists everywhere believe that radical, fundamentalists, fanatical, islam has "won". Killing the infidels … Defeating two of the most powerful Nations in the World. As well as they believe the same the Brits, decades before. The War is far from over … It may have just changed locations, etc., a bit. The Taliban know how to run a jihad, but little about actually running a "nation". Looks like the UN, some NGOs, etc., are trying to prevent many in A'stan from starving, etc. Other than that no one should give the Taliban any form of aid. And don't recognize them as anything more than a terrorist organization. There are at least 4 of their leadership have prices on their heads. Those targets and others should not be forgotten. Of course the Paks, PRC/CCP probably Putin and maybe Iran will support the "new" Taliban nation, regardless. Again the war is not over … |
Tango01 | 18 Sep 2021 9:16 p.m. PST |
Bomb Attacks Have Returned To Afghanistan
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Legion 4 | 19 Sep 2021 9:05 a.m. PST |
And again … no surprise there. This is the norm in A'stan and other nations/failed or failing states in the nearby regions. Having the similar basic belief systems, etc. |
SBminisguy | 22 Sep 2021 8:55 a.m. PST |
In the US, House Democrats blocked a bill that would explicitly designate the Taliban as a terrorist group after SecState Blinken refused to do so…despite the fact that at least 14 of the Taliban's 33 so-called cabinet ministers are on United Nations sanctions lists for terrorism, and five Taliban leaders had been held at Guantanamo as terrorists. |
Legion 4 | 22 Sep 2021 9:19 a.m. PST |
Madness … just madness … The Taliban are nothing but terrorists/jihadis. What is so hard for some to understand? They are delusional to think of them in any other light. They even sent a letter to the UN to be called a "nation". … That should go no where … Any of their leaders that have a price on their head. Should remain a drone target. And be serviced as soon as possible… |
Escapee | 22 Sep 2021 12:36 p.m. PST |
I hope they centralize themselves as targets in Afghanistan. Better to know where they are and send in the drones. And maybe we can put together some new special forces to destabilize their operations. We have a lot of afghans here to recruit from. |
jamemurp | 22 Sep 2021 1:27 p.m. PST |
Ha, so a guy in charge who advocated continuing the debacle now says leaving encourages terrorists. It's like domino theory all over again. What do we care if radicals flock to Afghanistan to pick sides in their civil war? How many Afghanis attacked on 9/11 again? And last I checked, murdering a bunch of civilians doesn't prevent you from being the leader of a nation. Check with GWB and Obama on that. And not a word on the billions KSA has pumped into global terrorism… |
SBminisguy | 22 Sep 2021 1:37 p.m. PST |
The Taliban are nothing but terrorists/jihadis. What is so hard for some to understand? They are delusional to think of them in any other light. Ahhh…but you need to look at this politically. Since the Taliban control the fate of several thousand trapped American citizens and Green Card holders, any hostage for cash deals with a declared terrorist group become really fraught with political peril. But if you don't define them as terrorists, then your Danegeld is just "humanitarian assistance." See how that works?? All depends on what the meaning of the word "is" is… |
Legion 4 | 22 Sep 2021 3:37 p.m. PST |
Yes, I understand that there is a number of Americans & Green Card Holders trapped there. Looks like Vets, NGOs, etc., are getting some of them out little by little. It is a big task that should have been already done by the US Gov't. And yes, politically the State Dept., is supposed to get them out. I have little faith in them. I understand about "playing politics". Dangling a "carrot" is a way to do that. But regardless, we can't forget who the Taliban/AQ are. |
Legion 4 | 22 Sep 2021 3:59 p.m. PST |
Ha, so a guy in charge who advocated continuing the debacle now says leaving encourages terrorists. That is pretty much a fact with all the Jihadis going to A'stan. For what ? The weather ? The beach … wait they don't have a beach. Of course Sharia Law sounds goods to many of those troglodytes. What do we care if radicals flock to Afghanistan to pick sides in their civil war? If they only would stay there and slaughter each other. Leaving no man standing. How many Afghanis attacked on 9/11 again? Matters little, AQ and ISIS are a mixed bag of nations that have jihadis. Lots of them … murdering a bunch of civilians doesn't prevent you from being the leader of a nation. Yes, just ask the Taliban's current leadership. Again if the US wanted to purposely kill non-combatants, like the Taliban, AQ, ISIS, etc., do almost on a daily basis it appears. We could turn places on the planet like the dark side of the Moon without using WMDs. Check with GWB and Obama on that. Is there a number known of those killed by CD ? Is there a number that says how many non-combatants purposely the US targeted ? Purposely Not CD … I'm going to say 0 … And not a word on the billions KSA has pumped into global terrorism… Old news … However, it starts with religious, ethnic, tribal, etc., hatreds that go back centuries. I will not make anymore comments as I will get DH'd. |
Tango01 | 23 Sep 2021 9:03 p.m. PST |
The Brutal Reality Of Life Under The Taliban Is Becoming Known YouTube link link
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Legion 4 | 24 Sep 2021 9:30 a.m. PST |
yes, the Taliban said they will follow their religious beliefs. And executions and dismemberment of limbs, etc. will continue. Does anybody save of those that think like this, think that they should be in the UN? Or be supported by anyone for any reason? The UN, etc., is bring in food, etc. Maybe those living/existing there would be better off dead ? I know the Taliban, AQ, ISIS, etc., would be. But … They will get fat or fatter on the UN food. While many still starve … |
Tango01 | 02 Oct 2021 9:49 p.m. PST |
HOW WE FELL INTO THE TERRORIST TRAP AND HAVE YET TO FIND OUR WAY OUT link
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Legion 4 | 03 Oct 2021 10:58 a.m. PST |
Again many of the GENs thought we should have left the 2500 US Troops at Bagram. Plus NATO had about 7000-8000 troops in country working with us as Allies do. Hell the US sent 5800 to Kabul. If we kept Bagram, those troops could have been sent there. As it was a concern that the US didn't have enough troops at Bagram. Because of the size of the base. 2500 + 5800 + 7000-8000 + the small number of capable ANA/ANP … That certainly should have been enough, I'd think. We had airpower there, the C-RAM system, etc. Plus BAF is fortified. Some US GENs say we may have to go back … Iraq all over again … If I may say … The evac was more about political promises. Than military considerations, etc. From Military.com : Back to A'stan – link Posted this before … but worth repeating … |