"GHQ & Langton Miniatures: Scale" Topic
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Schreibtischpirat | 05 Sep 2021 2:57 a.m. PST |
Dear all, I'm new to ship modeling and bought the USS Constitution from GHQ and Langton to find a good manufacture for me. Now, the size differnece is quite large. I measured a roughly 10% length difference between the two models. (Langton is longer) Is this normal in this scale and between manufacturers? Thanks in advance! |
VonBlucher | 05 Sep 2021 7:28 a.m. PST |
It can be, but while I like GHQ models very much, I picked up Langton and their range is much larger than GHQ's. I would stick with one or the other. |
whitejamest | 05 Sep 2021 7:53 a.m. PST |
Between these two manufacturers, that difference is very typical. In general the Langton models will be noticeably larger and chunkier than their GHQ counterparts, and sit higher in the water. The GHQ proportions are the more accurate and the detail much more in scale, but the line is far more limited. Also the GHQ masts are less detailed than the Langton ones, and their softness can be tricky depending on the rigging method you use. I use GHQ and Langton models together (though I tend to focus on smaller vessels, from frigates down) and I recommend always sanding Langton models down to sit lower in the water. That helps them blend a little bit better. The Skytrex models are closer to GHQ in sizing and proportion, though the detail is not nearly as well done. I don't have any experience with Navwar. |
StarCruiser | 05 Sep 2021 8:13 a.m. PST |
FYI – Navwar is generally crap in quality… Poorly molded and the molds are probably ancient. They do have a fairly broad range of subjects though, and they're very cheap. |
20thmaine | 05 Sep 2021 9:37 a.m. PST |
On the other hand – I have quite a lot of Navwar (not age of sail though!) and I am generally happy with them – Ancient galleys, 16th century and ACW. |
Schreibtischpirat | 05 Sep 2021 9:50 a.m. PST |
Hi, yes, Navwar doesn't satisfy my needs. I got some modern ships off ebay and the quality is not very good. For Skytrex: Yeah, I don't know where I can get some, but Langton/GHQ should be fine for me. But thanks for clarifying this! Now I know more and can decide which I like more. (models are atm not built yet) Cheers, Thorsten |
McKinstry | 05 Sep 2021 3:37 p.m. PST |
GHQ says they are 1/1200 but I've always found them a bit smaller than Langton. I was thinking someone did 1/2000 but I think that was Valiant. |
dantheman | 06 Sep 2021 5:27 a.m. PST |
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John Leahy | 06 Sep 2021 5:48 a.m. PST |
Yes they are. There are also files available for 3d printing them. Or you could buy them already printed. Thanks John |
BrianW | 06 Sep 2021 9:29 a.m. PST |
Schreibtischpirat, What used to be the Skytrex line is now made by Red Eagle Miniatures: redeagleminiatures.co.uk I have used a few of their hulls with Langton masts and ratlines. I don't know of anywhere else (for metal miniatures, anyway) that you can find the US ships of the line from the 1820s. |
Schreibtischpirat | 06 Sep 2021 1:47 p.m. PST |
Thanks for sharing the Red Eangle Mini site! I will definitly have a look at them once I built the Langton/GHQ versions :) |
Rick H | 06 Sep 2021 8:09 p.m. PST |
I agree with the exceptionally unpopular opinion that the Langton models are clunkier than GHQ. However, since they don't sit so low in the water (more freeboard) I can display the Langton models heeled over with the wind on the beam, where GHQ models require a plate to be added below the waterline to do the same thing. Since I don't display multiple ships on the same patch of ocean, I am fine with one being 10% bigger than the other. And I really do like the variety that is available with the two manufacturers. As for Navwar, I have a bunch that I stockpiled many years ago, and have noticed a couple of things, without determining the pattern. Some Navwar ships were originally done in resin, and they are really, really crude. Seems like the molds were carved freehand. Then, later, I think, the same ships were released in white metal, and they are still clones of the resin blobs. The later Navwar ships seem to be pretty nice, but not as nice as GHQ/Langton. And I have a few Triton models – don't know how or if that relates to the Skytrex line – and they seem nicer than the better Navwar ships. The small boats are cast onto the decks, a feature I don't like. And luckily for me, I don't use the masts and sails from the kits, so relative differences there are immaterial for me. :-) Best regards, Rick |
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