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AussieAndy28 Aug 2021 11:01 p.m. PST

Greetings
I would be grateful if someone could tell me the correct colours for the woodwork and metalwork for artillery pieces of the Kingdom of Italy. I have seen both olive green and light grey for the woodwork. I'm not sure if one of those is correct (or neither). I've looked at quite a few sources, but I'm not entirely confident about any of them.
Thank you

AussieAndy28 Aug 2021 11:01 p.m. PST

Greetings
I would be grateful if someone could tell me the correct colours for the woodwork and metalwork for artillery pieces of the Kingdom of Italy. I have seen both olive green and light grey for the woodwork. I'm not sure if one of those is correct (or neither). I've looked at quite a few sources, but I'm not entirely confident about any of them.
Thank you

Leondegrande28 Aug 2021 11:36 p.m. PST

Try this link:
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AussieAndy28 Aug 2021 11:43 p.m. PST

Thank you. That's one for grey. I understand that there are many shades of grey, so any information on the particular shade of grey would be appreciated.

Prince of Essling29 Aug 2021 2:16 a.m. PST

Anthony & Paul Dawson & Stephen Summerfield's "Napoleonic Artillery" page 229, Table 9.2 merely says "grey woodwork and black metal fittings".

As to the shade, I would hazard a guess at the lighter end of the grey scale as they do have GB & KGL with medium to dark grey; Baden grey to dark grey; Spain dark grey or stained wood; Wurzburg grey etc.

That said we do have this drawing from "L'Esercito del Regno Italico 1805-14 Vol. 3; Corpi Speciali" by Luca S Cristini & Guglielmo Aimaretti
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Based on this I would suggest wait until there is sufficient evidence one way or the other…

GamesPoet Supporting Member of TMP29 Aug 2021 3:46 a.m. PST

Ha! If I paint up Italians, then perhaps will do one battery in gray and the another in olive. It is conceivable that they might have had both, and that I could be dead before it is resolved. Enjoy! : )

AussieAndy29 Aug 2021 4:53 a.m. PST

Thank you. I have the Napoleonic Artillery book, it was my main source for the grey option.

AussieAndy29 Aug 2021 4:58 a.m. PST

Good advice from the Prince.

Prince of Essling29 Aug 2021 11:24 a.m. PST

"L'Esercito del Regno Italico 1805-14 Vol. 3; Corpi Speciali" by Luca S Cristini & Guglielmo Aimaretti page 9 says "Tutta la parte lignea e il carriaggio dei pezzi italici dipinti in verde oliva, mentre le parti metaliche erano dipinte in nero opaco."
Very roughly translated as:
All the wooden parts of the carriages of the Italian pieces were painted in olive green, while the metallic parts were painted in opaque black.

But I do suggest you wait until further info is available to take a sensible decision.

There is a print of "Italian military parade in front of Napoleon at Montechiaro on ?? 1805" which shows a grey (blue grey?) artillery piece.

Prince of Essling29 Aug 2021 1:22 p.m. PST

One thought look for Albrecht Adam's prints of the 1812 campaign in Russia as he accompanied Prince Eugene on campaign acting as the official artist. He was attached to the Prince's topographical bureau with IV Corps. As he left for home on 24 September 1812, his paintings only cover the advance into Russia.

Napoleon's Army in Russia: The Illustrated Memoirs of Albrecht Adam, 1812 link
Below is extracted from review on the above volume link
Adam was a Bavarian painter attached to a small unit of cartographers and draughtsmen in Napoleon's Italian army. It was in this capacity that he accompanied the emperor's vast international force into Russia in 1812.The sketches he made between June and September formed the basis for a suite of coloured lithographs published in Munich in 1828,13 years after Napoleon's final exile, and seven years after his death on St Helena. North's edition contains almost the entire series, along with extracts from the artist's journal and a few borrowings from a friend of Adam's, Eugene Labaume, who published his own memoir of the horrifying campaign in 1815.

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