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Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian26 Aug 2021 9:42 a.m. PST

So…. I bought a Warlord Games French Peninsular starter army. On Amazon, Ebay, etc it shows four 24 man infantry battalions. Great. If you look close, it shows that each battalion has 4 grenadiers and 4 voltigeurs, or essentially 32 elites. So far so good. Or so I thought.

When I open the box, I count 20 infantry sprues, each of which has just one elite body. Add it all up, there are enough grenadier heads and enough voltigeur heads but not enough elite bodies – twelve bodies short. What the heck me thinks. So I look very very carefully at the box and sure enough, in the picture of the very beautifully painted battalion you can see that at least one of the elites does NOT have epaulettes. Boo… hiss… sneaky.

Yea, I know…. they did not always wear epaulettes into the field but I likes'em on my figures and I should not have to do research on sprue composition before I put down a chunk of change like this.

Rant over. Feel free to continue on with what you were doing, while I shop for elites.

Wackmole926 Aug 2021 10:37 a.m. PST

have you contacted them?

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian26 Aug 2021 10:49 a.m. PST

No, there is no real point. It is not like the box was lacking something, it is more like the pictures ON the box do not represent the mix IN the box. Easier just to pick up some Perry elites or something. Might be a good time to try out Offensive Miniatures via Amazon.

d88mm194026 Aug 2021 12:40 p.m. PST

That's what happens when you support the Industrial-Wargame Complex:)

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2021 2:55 p.m. PST

+5 to dd88mm1940

Jim

pzivh43 Supporting Member of TMP26 Aug 2021 4:11 p.m. PST

Disingenuous advertising. I understand cover painting is what it is, but at least there should be a list of what's in the box. And it shouldn't be in 8 point type. Boo, Warlord Games.

Zephyr126 Aug 2021 9:07 p.m. PST

hmmm, maybe press some modeling clay over the epaulettes to make a mold? I'd coat the mold inside with several layers of white glue (drying out between layers) to form the epaulette, peel it out, then it can be glued to the shoulder. Just an idea… ;-)

setsuko27 Aug 2021 2:28 a.m. PST

Nah he'd be missing the sabres too. It's easier then to just buy some extra grenadiers.

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian27 Aug 2021 3:25 a.m. PST

There are enough sabres. Go figure.

Michael Hopper29 Aug 2021 12:14 p.m. PST

I purchased 6 boxes each of Celts, 6 of ancient Germans, 6 of ancient Britons etc. I also ordered some sprues separate from the boxes. The end result was that I got the same sprue for all of them, be it Britons, Celts or Germans. The only difference was one of the three types of boxes included "some" decals, not enough for the entire box but "some". Two of the box types did not have decals at all, but included the same quantity and type of sprues, and the German box added a couple of metal figures to the lot.

Let the buyer beware. In my case I now have a painted Celtic 28mm army and I have no desire to use them because I believed in Warlord Games (past tense) and that when marketing 3 different boxes I would get different castings in each box. That was not the case. The artwork does not match the castings at all really.

I would rather deal with any other company now because Warlord Games' marketing convinced me that they really do not care about customer satisfaction when the artwork for all 3 boxes (Celts, Britons, Germans) is different, yet the sprues are the same. Warlord Games is NOT a company I can recommend to anyone any more.

Michael Hopper29 Aug 2021 12:24 p.m. PST

+2 Virtualscratchbuilder – I mirror your experience with WG. I will not publicly slander them but if any gamer asks about my experience and what was actually in the boxes, I will tell the full truth.

900-ish plastic Gauls later, and despite multi-pose they all look the same. There is no Briton centric figures with druids in the ranks. There are no Germans with the Suebian hair knot that archaelogists have validated was common among the Germans. Instead I ended up with 90 sprues of Celts, some sprues being command, most otherwise same old-same old. I painted them just because I bought them but now when I look at anything WG I think "why bother". Except for command figures being part of one of only two types of sprues, all Celts look alike.

Good luck to anyone buying WG products is all I can say.

ConnaughtRanger29 Aug 2021 12:42 p.m. PST

Am I missing something? Two new threads, started by the same person both dripping about Warlord Games. Hardly a regular subject.

SHaT198429 Aug 2021 1:09 p.m. PST

Shouldnt these be posted in the 'Commercial' section?

Personal logo Virtualscratchbuilder Supporting Member of TMP Fezian29 Aug 2021 5:12 p.m. PST

You are not missing anything. I am just venting at the naivete of my own expectations. A "first this and now that" sorta thing.

DJCoaltrain30 Aug 2021 7:38 a.m. PST

Sounds like a bit of "Bait and switch," which is illegal in the USA.

SHaT198430 Aug 2021 1:35 p.m. PST

>>Yea, I know…. they did not always wear epaulettes into the field

I have no idea why you would think that at all.
Whilst there may have been 'incidents' I'd seriously doubt that any such formal action was likely. I've NEVER read about it in 45 years of research!

However, I'd say it IS LIKELY the result of ignorant artists and/ or designers cock-ups to create them.

[I know some guard junior regiments did not get epaulettes- that is a completely separate issue].

>>Disingenuous advertising.
Call it what it may be- deceptive advertising. But as we know in the great land of opportunity, painting a picture of something isn't a contract to supply TO YOU what you see (except if you copy it, then you are stealing their property…). Great
~d

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