Gazzola | 07 Aug 2021 3:37 a.m. PST |
Yes, there seems to be no end to Napoleonic titles appearing or will be appearing in the not too distant future. The latest I have come across is GLORY IS FLEETING by Andrew Bamford and Robert Burnham. It contains a collection of essays by various authors including some members of this site and a former member. It looks like it could be a book you can pop into and read one chapter now and again because they chapters cover different topics. One topic is the Brits at Leipzig 1813. For those of us who still have unread mountains of titles, you can relax, it won't be available until November. So we'd all better get reading. LOL |
Gazzola | 07 Aug 2021 6:45 a.m. PST |
A bit confusing because while the actual publisher displays the book was available in March this year, other sites state a mixture of it is available now or it is not yet available or it won't be available until November this year? If anyone has any luck obtaining this title please let us know? |
AussieAndy | 07 Aug 2021 8:11 a.m. PST |
Can't check right now, but I'm pretty sure that I've had a copy for several months. |
Florida Tory | 07 Aug 2021 8:40 a.m. PST |
Amazon promises delivery in the US by next Tuesday for Prime members: link I might take them up on it! It looks like the publisher promises similar speed for UK readers: link Rick |
MarbotsChasseurs | 07 Aug 2021 8:41 a.m. PST |
I believe von Winterfeldt wrote an article for this book. Looks interesting! |
BTCTerrainman | 07 Aug 2021 11:57 a.m. PST |
An excellent volume. I enjoyed it greatly. You can obtain via On Military Matters in the US as well. |
SHaT1984 | 07 Aug 2021 3:10 p.m. PST |
Those names mean… N-S reprints of articles that are or were online? Personally until they review THAT site and correct some of the horrendous outdated material, nothing from them is trustworthy (not including vW of course). Ahh yes I wrote that before even looking at the ad. Good to see my memory still works. No doubt the Dave Hollins item would be good too, but it's not a title I need. Seems to be a way of extracting suckers money by repeating the ra-ra of old English essays. A full book by Hollins, now thats a different story. :-) d |
evilgong | 07 Aug 2021 8:19 p.m. PST |
I got it a few weeks ago as a birthday present. I've read through about 2/3 of it. DB |
Gazzola | 08 Aug 2021 4:37 a.m. PST |
So it is advertised as already being available since March in Amazon.com but advertised as not being available until November 15th in Amazon.UK. The plot thickens! LOL |
Lilian | 08 Aug 2021 7:35 a.m. PST |
you are late, actually this book is fully available since 16th march 2021 on the Helion's website, the last published were the Damas Legion then both titles about India, Maratha and Jat Campaigns 1803-1806 and Army of Hindustan for july, the Lines of Torres Vedras 1807-1814 early august Helion has already published 15 new titles for this serie From Reason to Revolution in 7 months and one week, at that rate 2021 will be certainly a record, 17 maxi per year until now, twelve last year but due to the crisis 1: 'We Endured a Lot, Suffered a Lot': The Anhalt Duchies during the Napoleonic Wars 1804–1814 – Daniel Clarke 2: That Other Battle in 1805: Second Caldiero – David Hollins 3: The Prussian Light Infantry in 1806 – Hans-Karl Weiss 4: The Pursuit After Jena – Kevin Kiley 5: A Poor Place to Fight a War: Franco-Italian Operations in the Tyrol 1809 – John H. Gill 6: Maucune's Division at Salamanca – Garry David Wills 7: Rockets at Leipzig – The British Contribution to the 'Battle of Nations' October 1813 – Guy Dempsey |
Gazzola | 09 Aug 2021 4:38 a.m. PST |
Yes, I discovered it is available direct from the publishers but I was puzzled as to why the book can be obtained from Amazon.com (as well as from some other book sellers) but not from Amazon.uk? After all, the publishers are UK based, as far as I am aware, so you would think it would be available from Amazon Uk first? There must be some UK sales lost there? |
Gazzola | 09 Aug 2021 4:40 a.m. PST |
Lilian The list you gave are the contents of the seven chapters from Glory Is Fleeting. Some of them look very interesting. |
Gazzola | 10 Aug 2021 4:26 a.m. PST |
Still not able to discover why this title was not available from Amazon.Uk but was from Amazon.com? Especially since other UK booksellers were offing it? Anyway, my copy is on the way now. Looking forward to seeing it. |
Lilian | 10 Aug 2021 5:37 a.m. PST |
it is not the first time I repeat that, the god Amazon is all but an updated reference concerning the real availability and publication date of the books, it is not something new and very especially for the Helion titles not appearing before weeks or months while they are availables, or given as published while they are delayed |
Lilian | 10 Aug 2021 9:09 a.m. PST |
Amazon UK vs realities 10th august 2021 limited the study to last Helion's From Reason to Revolution titles 44 Glory is Fleeting: New Scholarship on the Napoleonic Wars 15th November wrong…published, only 8 months late… 73 Their Infantry and Guns Will Astonish You': The Army of Hindustan and European Mercenaries in Maratha service 1780-1803 28th August again wrong available since 20th july 72 For God and King: A History of the Damas Legion (1793–1798): A Case Study of the Military Emigration during the French Revolution 15th March… no sorry not before last 12th july 4 months after 75 Wellington and the Lines of Torres Vedras: The Defence of Lisbon during the Peninsular War, 1807-1814 15th August…close enough # The Battle of Rossbach 1757: New Perspectives on the Battle and Campaign 15 August 2021 totally wrong, book delayed, postponed to 2022 70 The Sword and the Spirit: Proceedings of the first ‘War & Peace in the Age of Napoleon' Conference 15th June 2021 well…close enough 65 Sir James McGrigor: The Adventurous Life of Wellington's Chief Medical Officer 15th May 2021 wrong, published 2 months before 69 The Sea Is My Element: The eventful life of Admiral Sir Pulteney Malcolm, 1766-1838 15th May no, but more than one month after 58 At the Point of the Bayonet: The Peninsular War Battles of Arroyomolinos and Almaraz 1811-1812 28 March 2021 still wrong published one month after 59 The Sieges of the '45: Siege Warfare during the Jacobite Rebellion of 1745-1746 28 March 2021 wrong published one month before 62 Napoleon's Stolen Army: How the Royal Navy Rescued a Spanish Army in the Baltic 28th March 2021 always wrong, one month after 63 Crisis at the Chesapeake: The Royal Navy and the Struggle for America 1775-1783 28 March 2021 wrong as usual, published in may 64 Bullocks, Grain, and Good Madeira: The Maratha and Jat Campaigns, 1803-1806 and the emergence of an Indian Army 15th January 2021 totally wrong published 6 months later etc, etc.. |
ConnaughtRanger | 10 Aug 2021 3:12 p.m. PST |
Amazon are a book seller. They publish the information supplied by the publisher. Specialist military publishers like Helion and Pen & Sword produce some superb books but their forecast publication dates are notoriously erratic. |
Gazzola | 11 Aug 2021 6:58 a.m. PST |
That suggests that whatever information supplied by the publisher for Amazon.Uk. must have, for some unknown reason (as yet) been different to the information they supplied for Amazon.com? Whatever went wrong, Amazon have lost a sale and a bookshop has gained one. But I guess we should take into consideration all that has happened over the last two years and be thankful that Napoleonic titles are still being published. |
ConnaughtRanger | 11 Aug 2021 11:41 p.m. PST |
Some people seem to be looking for conspiracy where none exists. I have no idea how Amazon's very successful algorithms work but if I am looking for an obscure book or film, I routinely check on a variety of "national" Amazon sites because,unsurprisingly, not everything is shown everywhere? |
Gazzola | 13 Aug 2021 3:49 a.m. PST |
ConnaughttRanger 'Conspiracy' Really? How silly! I was just puzzled why it was not available via Amazon.Uk when it was available via Amazon.com? Like you, I am always checking the Amazon sites, along with other booksellers and also this website for word on new titles, even though I have a mountain of unread books! I found it advertised on Amazon.com and then went to order it via Amazon.uk but found they were not offering it until November? As I say, in this case, Amazon's loss is a book shop's gain. Talking of which, I'm trying to ban myself from buying any more books until the end of September! (Just in time for Massena at Bay and the new Sharpe novel) LOL |
Brechtel198 | 13 Aug 2021 3:59 a.m. PST |
Talking of which, I'm trying to ban myself from buying any more books until the end of September! And good luck with that and more power to you. I've tried that from time to time and it lasts about as long as a New Year' Resolution. 🤷♂️ |
SHaT1984 | 13 Aug 2021 1:46 p.m. PST |
>>must have, for some unknown reason (as yet) been different to the information they supplied for Amazon.com? Whatever! What's the old saying, don't ascribe to malice what can be put down to stupidity! Frankly the manipulations, greed and ultimately coercive effects of such organisations, and their abusive employment practices multiplied throughout have become the Western and modern slavery and controlling as religion has been for 2000-odd years. Only exceeded by the greed of those who manipulate and abuse others to support them. - - |
ConnaughtRanger | 13 Aug 2021 3:21 p.m. PST |
You don't have a Prime subscription, then? |
Gazzola | 15 Aug 2021 5:24 a.m. PST |
SHaT1984 & ConnaughtRanger No, I do not have a Prime subscription and I will not pay for one, thank you very much. I prefer to browse through Amazon and other websites and booksellers to see who offers anything new and who has the best deal, price wise, postage and delivery time etc. In other words, I don't buy all my titles from one bookseller. There is usually always a better deal out there, if one can be bothered to look. The reason I raised this is because I have not known that to happen before, concerning titles I wanted to buy. If anything, books have been unavailable due to sellers running out of stock or titles being out of print. Anyway, I have my copy now, so there you go. All's well that ends well. |
Gazzola | 15 Aug 2021 5:28 a.m. PST |
Brechtel198 Yes, I have already been tested. But I am determined not to purchase another title until the end of September! Of course, that depends on Armand and others not posting interesting titles before then. If they do, then probably my 'determination' will go out of the window. LOL |
Lilian | 15 Aug 2021 6:33 a.m. PST |
so it is quite easy until september and even after as we are no longer allowed to published anything about news/forthcoming titles here in the Medias boards according to the TMP revised rules… |
SHaT1984 | 15 Aug 2021 3:04 p.m. PST |
>>No, I do not have a Prime subscription and I will not pay for one, thank you very much. I'll second that. I just don't need any hardsell automated crap coming from a multibillionaires coercion system of money grubbing filth than I need Jehovahs Witnesses (were they really?) or UNICEF callers on my doorstep. I have the greatest admiration for Helion now that I own exacty one book- The Autrian Cavalry; I have friends who have acquired many titles over the years. I just don't need this book of mish-mash topics (and its source). I am waiting again, for mail alert on next missive where again I'll purchase two copies, one on behalf of a mate who will reimburse me. Otherwise, discretionary spending is just that, and my discretion is HUGE! cheers d |
Gazzola | 17 Aug 2021 7:48 a.m. PST |
SHaT1984 Well, for a start, no one is forced to by any titles. It is a matter of choice. But I do find it hard to resist new ones, well, some of them anyway, although the more titles that sell, the more publishers might consider publishing more Napoleonic books. But I'm not saying everyone 'should' buy any book in case publishers stop publishing Napoleonic titles. And we know there are always topics, battles and campaigns we'd all prefer to see being published. But I was attracted to this title because you can just pop into it and read any single chapter you want and whichever attracts you at the time of reading. And it does not matter if you don't come back to it for some time. Each chapter is a topic on its own. And what I have noticed, which is great for us book buyers, is that the 'smaller' guys have woken up and are offering titles, price, postage and delivery wise, at the very least comparable to that offered by the 'bigger' guys. But again, it is up to the individual if they want to buy a title and who from. And again, I'm just thankful that Napoleonic titles are still being published. |
Gazzola | 17 Aug 2021 7:51 a.m. PST |
Lilian Have I missed something? I was under the impression that members can still post info about a new or forthcoming title, as a matter of interest to other members? |
SHaT1984 | 17 Aug 2021 3:10 p.m. PST |
>>Have I missed something? Yes- the several threads that have been peremptorily removed / suppressed by the GAM Who Shall BE Obeyed. Turned quite nasty because of 'retributions' against the scholastic industry. My rant was Not against freedom of choice by readers, but the garbage shovelled by 'payme-pay ME' multibillion dollar hegemoths coercions… You're lucky you get to choose- I bought my first 'new' books last year since 2000! cheers d |
dibble | 17 Aug 2021 8:38 p.m. PST |
I'm a long-standing Amazon Prime subscriber. This is what it says: "Glory is Fleeting: New Scholarship on the Napoleonic Wars (Reason to Revolution) by Robert Burnham and Andrew Bamford | 15 Nov 2021 Paperback £17.36 GBP £25.00 GBP Pre-order Price Guarantee. FREE delivery by Monday, Nov 15 This title will be released on November 15, 2021." |
von Winterfeldt | 18 Aug 2021 2:30 p.m. PST |
it is out for ages, in case you are interested buy from Helion directly, Amazon is doing a bad job here. |
Gazzola | 19 Aug 2021 3:27 p.m. PST |
dibble I only discovered it recently. But I also discovered while searching where to buy a copy that the same title had been available from Amazon.com in March! Also, as VW states, it had also been available in the UK from the actual publisher Helion. And the same with other UK booksellers. That's the puzzle? But whatever, I've got my copy now from a bookshop and cheaper and quicker than the larger booksellers. |
AussieAndy | 20 Aug 2021 12:08 a.m. PST |
I have bought a whole lot of Helion books in recent years. Usually, I've bought through Book Depository (which I access through ABEBooks) because of the discounted prices and cheap cost of postage to Australia. However, over the last year or so, the newly released books have been very slow to appear on Book Depository and pretty expensive when they do appear. So I'm guessing that the commercial arrangements between Helion and Book Depository have changed quite considerably. Helion' own shipping costs are horribly expensive. The upshot of all that is that I'm now buying a whole lot fewer Helion books. |
Brechtel198 | 20 Aug 2021 4:17 a.m. PST |
Do you think it has anything to do with the pandemic? |
Gazzola | 21 Aug 2021 4:02 a.m. PST |
I think a lot of publishers must have had problems due to any pandemic restrictions imposed and/or people having to isolate themselves for a period of time. But that still might not explain why a title published (as far as I am aware) in the UK should be made available and sent to America, while at the same time not be available by the same bookseller in the UK itself and still not be available until November? |
Gazzola | 21 Aug 2021 4:07 a.m. PST |
AussieAndy I think you have shown some of the problems, which may (or may not) be due to the 'pandemic' in some way? Depending on the various countries and whatever restrictions they may still be imposing? But, besides any problems caused by the pandemic, booksellers have to face up to facts and try to offer as good a deal as they can which compares to the bigger booksellers, otherwise their sales will drop. They can't just always rely on the loyalty of customers to maintain their profits. |
AussieAndy | 25 Aug 2021 2:02 a.m. PST |
Gazzola, I can't see why the pandemic would have anything to do with the issues that I've outlined. Clearly, Helion is still publishing books, so I suspect that the high prices at Book Depository (relative to their previous prices) probably has to do with the commercial terms on which Helion supplies BD or it may just be that BD has decided of its own volition to charge a whole lot more. In any event, I've certainly wound back my Helion purchases considerably. |
Gazzola | 25 Aug 2021 11:03 a.m. PST |
AussieAndy Perhaps the pandemic restrictions or whatever have forced delivery prices up or caused some sort of delivery shortage and problems – due to delivery drivers or other workers having to stay off work etc and publishers not being able to produce titles within a certain time limit, who knows? Saying that, I don't think there are any real problems with obtaining titles in the UK, apart from the one I raised concerning Amazon Uk and Amazon.com. Overall, I wonder if book sales have increased or decreased this year? |
Lilian | 27 Aug 2021 6:29 a.m. PST |
with the Brexit UK has ceased to be a place to buy cheaper books for people outside UK, I would rather not imagine at which cost I will be obliged to buy them now, that will be the bad surprise to come so me too I would contribute certainly much less to the UK book sales in comparison to the golden age of the past decades unfortunately Helion is still a british company and Paul Lindsay Dawson is announcing his serie of 9 French Napoleonic books at Helion and Pen & Sword (more 3 on the British)… |
Brechtel198 | 27 Aug 2021 9:29 a.m. PST |
What series of 9 Napoleonic books at Helion and Pen & Sword are being announced? |
Lilian | 27 Aug 2021 11:05 a.m. PST |
at Pen & Sword 4 French (more 3 on the British) -first half 2022 Napoléon's Cavalry 1811-1815 -second half 2022 Napoléon's Infantry 1811-1815 presented as the most comprehensive review and definitive guide about what really wore the regiments and the realities of the Bardin regulations, e.g. the 21e Chasseurs with unexpected blue line Infantry uniforms instead of green-chasseurs and maybe others surprises of that kind who knows -two the French Army at Austerlitz at Helion 5 planned detailed volumes for Cuirassiers Dragons Chasseurs Hussards etc…1801-1815 not before 2022 of course |
Brechtel198 | 27 Aug 2021 11:37 a.m. PST |
They are not on the websites… |
SHaT1984 | 27 Aug 2021 4:17 p.m. PST |
Yay! More books I don't need! [out of period by a mile…] |
Gazzola | 30 Aug 2021 5:15 a.m. PST |
Phew! At least these titles are not out until next year! I have bills to pay, food to buy and I've already broken my vow not to purchase any more books until the end of September! Life is so tough for those of us suffering from bibliophilism. LOL |
Lilian | 26 Sep 2021 10:21 a.m. PST |
about my post dated last 27th august it will be not "two about the French Army of Austerlitz" at Pen & Sword but only one and the other about The French Army of Marengo and the French Revolution maybe a third about French Army 1806-1811 of Wagram and Peninsular War but if there will be enough customers readers to buy the first… for Helion volumes not before 2023-2024… |
Gazzola | 27 Sep 2021 4:17 a.m. PST |
Lilian Something to look forward to for next year. My unread mountain of books should have been reduced by then, I hope! |