"Prussian Flags in 1806" Topic
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| 50 Dylan CDs and an Icepick | 09 Oct 2005 3:03 p.m. PST |
So: what should I use for flags for my 28mm Prussians in the 1806 uniforms? GMB's late-war Prussian flags? What about cavalry flags? |
| Bronze Goat | 09 Oct 2005 3:06 p.m. PST |
I beleive they were very similar to the SYW variety but with FWR replacing the FR |
| 50 Dylan CDs and an Icepick | 09 Oct 2005 3:07 p.m. PST |
Oh hey, check this out… I hadn't looked in about a year, and guess what: GMB now has early-war Prussian flags! This will be the shortest thread in a long while: Case Closed! |
| Chris von Fahnestock | 09 Oct 2005 4:01 p.m. PST |
Sam,
email me directly and I can get you a sheet for Prussian Infantry and one for Cavalry..
chris von Fahnestock
info@outlandgames.net |
 Dal Gavan  | 10 Oct 2005 4:03 a.m. PST |
G'day, Sam. Glad the answer came so quickly, mate. Just for interest's sake, in 1806 the infantry regiments were, in the main, still carrying colours designed during FtG's time. So they still carried flags with "FR" monograms, for the most part (FWII had the colours replaced with copies when necessary, apparently, not bothering to have them "updated"). The new regiments raised after his death (56-59) carried the same patterns, but with "FWR" monograms. In the cavalry things were really mixed up. Some of the flags dated from 1713, though they'd been heavily repaired. Some had been replaced by FtG and had a new pattern eagle and "FR" monograms. And some were for newly raised units, being of the FtG pattern but with "FWR" monograms (eg GdC). Just to add spice, some units carried both old and new patterns (eg 4th KR, 6th, 7th and 8th DR). The GdC were given new standards in 1798, so were of a universal pattern (with the Leibstandarte having silver backgrounds to the monograms according to Riehn) and "FWR" monograms. Confused, yet? Cheers. Dal. |
| andygamer | 10 Oct 2005 7:50 a.m. PST |
The Prussian link of this Web site will show you what Dal is talking about when it comes to continuing to use the old pattern flags, at least for the foot. (Those things cost money, you know!) link |
| Rudysnelson | 10 Oct 2005 2:06 p.m. PST |
I though Signifer had some that would work. |
| summerfield | 10 Oct 2005 3:10 p.m. PST |
Dear Sam
It is always interesting that the Prussian Infantry standards were painted on silk. This created the strange reversed cyphers on oposite corners. No doubt the withdraw of 6 flags in 1788 helped their longevity. In 1806, each infantry regiment had 4 flags. Two for each musketeer bn. The Leib Standard was carried by the first bn and an ordinarfahne. The second bn carried two ordinairfahne. It is easier to refer to them in this manner than Advance and Retierefahne. This is confusing and poorly translated in English. Thanks Dal for clearing this up for me. I hope you have received the manuscript OK. I will send the other parts when it I have a reply. I have started redrawing the flags and now have maps of Prussia through the ages. This makes a little more sense now the geopolitics. Still need to clear up whether I should use the word colour for infantry as a translation for fahne. This is more recognisable in English. Stephen |
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