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Glengarry506 Jun 2021 5:40 p.m. PST

Does anyone know what the flags and banners of the Volga Bulgars may have looked like in the 12th to 13th centuries or thereabouts?
thanks

Perris070707 Jun 2021 3:51 p.m. PST

I have no idea. I would just go with some standards based on other steppe tribes. Horsetail standards, banners with various animal totems might be possible as well. Wolves, Bears, Eagles, etc.

Perris070707 Jun 2021 3:51 p.m. PST

Isn't there an Osprey Men at Arms on the Bulgars? Maybe they have some info in there.

Glengarry507 Jun 2021 5:09 p.m. PST

I have the Osprey book, banners are referred too but not described.

Cuprum207 Jun 2021 5:33 p.m. PST

There are some paintings by Tatar artists on the Internet, where the banners of the Volga Bulgars are depicted. But how these images are authentic and on what basis – is difficult to judge.

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Adoption of Islam by the Bulgars. On the banners of the Bulgars, pre-Islamic (apparently generic) totems are depicted.

Glengarry507 Jun 2021 10:16 p.m. PST

Who! Thanks for that Cuprum 2! I was beginning to lean towards something more Islamic than pagan.

Cuprum207 Jun 2021 10:23 p.m. PST

I don't think these are pagan symbols. It is rather a generic emblem of nobility. And they may well be used in the Islamic period.

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