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Perun Gromovnik04 Jun 2021 11:51 a.m. PST

Hi mates. Does any one know procedures and time needed for deconservation of aircraft stored at AMARAC site? Are those aircraft airworthy? I wonder if stored F-4 Phantoms and other aircrafts could be put into service and how much time would it be needed? Scenario is for 3rd WW in 1989. Also could those F-4 reinforce West Germany, Spain and UK air forces even if it is another variant used in their air forces

Roger Houston04 Jun 2021 3:18 p.m. PST

The inventory of F-4s out at Davis Monthan has been pretty much depleted out . Most all of the of the E and G models were reutilized in the mid 90s as live targets at Tindall for air to air live fires . I think the last of them were shot out by 2015 and that task has been assumed by the early block F-16s retired by the Air Guard and AF Reserve .
A bunch of the old Navy versions were also used as targets out at China Lake for air to air and surface to air missiles by the Navy . There may be a few of the N and S models still sitting out there, but not many .
It was a pretty easy task to put the AMARC aircraft back on line , unless the the maintenance parts have been eliminated at depot or they have cannibalized the AMARC inventory to keep the remaining active airframes fly able . Many that get sent there usually wind up getting put back in the operational fleet . Many of the CH53 and CH46 aircraft that were sent downrange from 2004-2008 were retreads from AMARC to offset the environmental and combat attrition losses in the early years of Enduring Freedom and Iraqi Freedom .
That's why the A10s are still flying today………There's enough retired airframes at DM that have donated parts to the remaining inventory to keep something that's 45 years old relevant . That's the equivalant to keeping P-51s from 1945 actively flying in time for Desert Storm in 1990.

Roger Houston04 Jun 2021 3:27 p.m. PST

Also, they pulled some retired Navy F-4Js out of AMARC and loaned them to the RAF in 1982 to offset the loss of a squadron of F-4M sent to provide air cover over the Falklands .I think McDonnell Douglas sent a technical team over to provide service and support . They remained designated as J models and had the GE engines and the US avionics . They stayed in service with the RAF at Lossiemouth, providing air defense cover over the Northern UK right up to the retirement of the entire Phantom fleet by the RAF in the early 90s .
I guess anything is possible .

Perun Gromovnik04 Jun 2021 6:29 p.m. PST

How much time would be needed to deconservate and reactivate stored B, C and D versions, some avarage time

Thresher0104 Jun 2021 7:17 p.m. PST

With a bit of work, some can be made useful again.

We've been pulling B-52s and B-1s out of retirement occasionally, and making them airworthy again.

I would guess anywhere between 6 months to a year, now, but that is just a stab in the dark. Probably faster during wartime.

Perun Gromovnik07 Jun 2021 5:40 a.m. PST

Thanks mates.
Could it be a problem to find working crew fast?

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