Tomsurbiton | 14 May 2021 10:24 a.m. PST |
I'm experimenting with different basing mixtures and have a question. At what point should you put 4 28mm miniatures onto a MDF base – before or after applying the basing material? It's rather tricky getting the figures to stick on the base if it's already covered in flock etc and if the other way round it's harder to get an even covering. Apologies if this is a silly question and I'm sure the answer is obvious (though I'm a tad cack-handed, and not very much in the way of modelling is). |
Titchmonster | 14 May 2021 10:28 a.m. PST |
I do this. Base the back rank and flock/ model around the base of the fig. Make sure that it covers the front of the base right until half way between the ranks. Then once dry. Add the front rank and then flock/ model around those. Adds a little time but I like the final product. |
79thPA | 14 May 2021 10:29 a.m. PST |
I always base on a clean stand. |
Sgt Slag | 14 May 2021 12:29 p.m. PST |
Gluing a mini onto an already flocked base, means that the mini's adhesive is only bonding with the flocking material, not the base material. This is usually a very weak adhesion. I always adhere the mini to my base, first. I add flock afterwards. I typically use E6000 Glue to attach the mini, to the base. I use PVA Wood Glue, painted over the MDF base, and over the top of the molded figure's base, then I swirl it in a mixture of colored sands. I am an army painter, and an army modeller: I don't worry about precision applications of basing materials, as I will be fielding multiple armies consisting of 20-200 mini's, per army, on the tabletop, with typically 3-10 armies (28mm)! I view my mini's at arm's-length+, 99% of the time, so I model/paint for the 99% of my viewing. I recommend you paint/model for the super-majority of your viewing distances. If that means you want them to look their best at 3" from your Orbits, I cannot help you. Sorry. Cheers! |
bobspruster | 14 May 2021 12:32 p.m. PST |
I flock the figures base, glue it to the stand, then flock the stand. |
Frederick | 14 May 2021 12:37 p.m. PST |
I paint the minis including base, glue onto the base and then flock Sometimes a bit of work but as noted by Sgt Slag the best way to get a good solid bond – the local club is 15 km away in the big wicked city so they travel a fair bit! |
Wackmole9 | 14 May 2021 1:24 p.m. PST |
I mix the base color paint, Some White glue and some modeling clay. Press the mixture on to the base, then Push the figures into clay. Remove the figures and clean out the holes in the clay. Then glue the figures into the holes. |
Stew art | 14 May 2021 3:29 p.m. PST |
Yeah, miniatures glued to the bare base and basing materials added afterwards. It helps to have some clay sculpting tools to push ground cover into hard to reach areas. 😀 |
Glengarry5 | 14 May 2021 4:07 p.m. PST |
I glue the figure to the base (I base individually, 25MM foot, 40MM mounted rounds and use movement trays), build up the "ground" with light spackling flush with the figures own base and let dry. Then I flock the ground. |
CeruLucifus | 14 May 2021 8:33 p.m. PST |
I generally base on styrene not MDF. But the answer to your question is to pin or peg the model into the base using epoxy. Since you're drilling into the base for the pin or peg, you're exposing bare base material for the glue bond. So whether you've applied the base treatment already or not, the glue bond is just as strong. |
Old Contemptible | 15 May 2021 9:10 a.m. PST |
I flock the figures base and then glue them to the base and then flock the base. |
Herkybird | 15 May 2021 10:15 a.m. PST |
I based my WSS figures on a 2 rank base, sticking the figures to the base and brushing paint, then varnish round the figures with only a little difficulty. Flock and sealant added with equal ease. |
Tomsurbiton | 15 May 2021 12:39 p.m. PST |
Thankyou very much for all your replies. I think I was doing the basic thing of stick figures on base then flock, only thing I wasn't was flocking figures first. Much obliged, I am always impressed with how helpful the people on here are. |
Old Contemptible | 15 May 2021 9:52 p.m. PST |
I have been basing my figures on thin metal bases from Wargamer Accessories, for many years now. I like the base to disappear as much as possible. I still have may early 15mm ACW when I was experimenting with various types of basses. like plastic and wood. Metal bases not only disappear but I can use magnetic sheets To hold them in place. |
Martin Rapier | 17 May 2021 12:58 a.m. PST |
Always stick the figures to a clean stand! It will prevent good adhesion otherwise. I just build up sand/flock or whatever to the level of the bases once they are stuck on. The odd irregularities disappear once the whole thing is done. I usually paint the bases some sort of dark neutral colour which helps them blend in. |