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Personal logo enfant perdus Supporting Member of TMP26 Mar 2021 5:28 p.m. PST

I found this scene very good from a technical point of view.

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Yes I know, the Decemberist Revolt was a decade past the Napoleonic Wars. I should also add that I find modern Russian movies to be pretty poor. They do, however, frequently have some good effects and people who strive to get technical details correct.

So, enjoy the squares and the artillery drill, and the best grape/canister/langridge scene since John Lee Hanock's The Alamo.

rmaker26 Mar 2021 9:02 p.m. PST

Yes I know, the Decemberist Revolt was a decade past the Napoleonic Wars.

Shouldn't matter. The Russian artillery didn't change equipment or drill until after Crimea.

But, once again, non-recoiling guns.

14Bore27 Mar 2021 7:02 a.m. PST

The entire movie was up for a short time and saw it though didn't understand a word and didn't have captions.
But the no recoil thing is becoming a pet peeve foe me.
No projectile means no recoil. I take it reading a gun fully charged recoil, in a field piece or a ship cannon. I get its hard to recreate in a movie without the projectile.

ConnaughtRanger27 Mar 2021 11:02 a.m. PST

Period artillery fire without huge explosions and enormous fireballs shooting upwards – that can't be right, surely?

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP27 Mar 2021 12:33 p.m. PST

Yes, I always look out for the recoil thing as well. Some films have achieved it quite well, 'Master and Commander' and Tony Richardson's 'Charge of the Light Brigade' come to mind. Some try and fail like in 'Waterloo' when the guns recoil some seconds after firing. Some do not even bother as in a large number of films. The recoil was not great but it was significant.

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Every time I see it realistically portrayed I give a little cheer. (My wife then looks at me and says 'Recoil, huh?)

ConnaughtRanger27 Mar 2021 3:10 p.m. PST

"The recoil was not great…"
Look at Mercer's diagram of the disposition of his battery at the end of the battle of Waterloo?

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP28 Mar 2021 3:41 a.m. PST

I agree on the Mercer story which he himself reported as the culmination of not running the guns up fully. Watch the video and imagine if you just left the gun in its final position each time. It would not take more than a few shots before they were well back from the original line and in danger of colliding.

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