"[Comparison Scale Sizes] Early Russian-Eureka/ WargFoundry" Topic

= Casting Room Miniatures/ ex-Wargames Foundry vs Eureka Miniatures=

The former 1805 range, latter 1799 specific.
Because, you know I had too, find out… the perenial question- what size is it? Male or female, it's the same…

So herewith some about scale photographs of my 'sample figures' to determine what I'd base a supplemental force of Russians on for 1805. I'm not making anything of the 1799/ 1805 difference in uniforms. I'm sure some Russians must have still been wearing old uniform. Hair and curls can be trimmed off.

We've covered the ground on Grenadiers in Kiwer-Shako threads to death; some did, some didn't. CRM/WF make both early types- Kiwer and Shako, just not a 'fuslier' cap. I may take the option of simply cutting off the pompom and 'faking it'.

Starting with the clearest, one WF grenadier compared with the Eureka grenadiers and their fusiliers (because you need them too):

‌IMG_5095_28mm Fig Comp.

IMO then either singly (battalion) or mixed in a unit would be ok- the Eureka being chunkier than the WF but are more animated too.

#2 Standing rather than lying down, the relative height is less different than weight/ mass issue more noticeable on the fusiliers:

‌IMG_5096_28mm Fig Comp.

#3 Here a comparison of the same figures, plus the Eureka Jaeger in bicornes:

‌IMG_5108_28mm Fig Comp.

Now, why the excessive size of the jaeger beats me. The kneeling figures nearly comes up to the shoulders of the standing figure; who in turn is a near head higher than his grenadier and fusilier mates. Whew! And the officer? Well I was somewhat disturbed by this. I've taken a couple of months cogitating over this.

You ask why do I want the jaeger anyway? Good question. Because only 'some' jager got the 1803 shako I understand, which leaves what? Some in bicorne/tricornish style? So because I'm only modelling two independant battalions of jaeger, one could be in bicorne.

#4 Here they are standing:

‌IMG_5100_28mm Fig Comp.

The respective officers just wouldn't fit obviously, not that they need to. In the background the Eureka are compared to a CRM/WF (sample paint job). Better shown below #5:

‌IMG_5098_28mm Fig Comp by DaveW, on Flickr.

While the sizes are disproportionate, not going to mix the figures in a unit means they could probably co-exist in an army together.

Addendum
What haven't I covered? Well Eureka are 'unique' in this range as most will probably know.
All the 1799 range is prototypically researched and provides a myriad of 'regular' infantry uniforms; up to a dozen poses for each and you can pick what uniform you want. Same with the jaeger, 13 different 'men' including the NCO, plus officers and other specialists (ie *fifers* in grenadiers!).

Sites:
Casting Room Miniatures

Eureka Miniatures

That's my job done, even if there's no decision yet…
thanks, davew ‌

Of course these are all 'old' by now and no-one's interested, I understand…
d**snort**

BTW, the CRM/WF Jaeger turned out like this~

The 3rd Battalion- 7th Jaeger were the first Russians in combat at Austerlitz 'on the day'.

‌IMG_5629_ ©dww2021 7th Jaeger
by DaveW, on Flickr.

Hope to get the 3rd/ 5th Jaeger under way soon (Eureka Mins.).

cheers d

why did you paint the Jäger in such a dark green? I was under the impression that their dress was of a lighter hue than the line? Those Eureka miniatures look very nice.

Hi vW, thanks for asking.
After my due diligence research and annoying ppl round here, I settled on two primary greens that conveniently, cover Russians and happily as many French cavalry, or infantry 'elite attributes' that I will be creating over the future two years perhaps?

Because I've a convenient local hobby store, one ex-Citadel/ Warhammer I buy local when I can.

I use the darker Citadel Base 'Nocturne Green' for Russian infantry and other body greens; however for the jaeger I decided, looking at a variety of illustrations and 'corrected resources' (ie TMP experts like Seroga and others, and even re-enactors units, not to create that 'lime' that became so popular in the gaming press, but Citadel Layer 'Kabalite Green'.

Without a direct comparison it isn't going to be obvious from this- but in truth I've not completed a Russian infantry unit except the jaeger- any others are 'work-in-progress' but sertainly due. I've been agonising over whose Grenadiers to use, and now have samples of Perry, Eureka and WF enough to create a couple of 'first battalions'.

For clarity, the only 'dark' green used on the 7th Jaeger above appears as shading around arms, legs, equipment and tails etc.

regards
dave

[Edit*]
My photographs are not the best and I think I 'overdid' the winter vegetation a little.
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I'll just add, for interest, that I find the action of the Leib-Garde Jaeger battalion [regiment] fascinating as well. Albeit commanded by an emigré- St.Priest!

Conversely to all that is written about Russian jaeger, they performed superbly in an isolated action taking and controlling the village of Blaziowitz, a minor village down slope from the heights.

It took 5 full French battalions and an outflanking manoeuvre to drive them out and that as a prudent withdrawl, not a rout.

As a single battalion, I may just have to recognise their participation!

Thanks to Sasha we have a uniform post and his links are still good:-
TMP link

cheers d