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Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP28 Feb 2021 9:49 p.m. PST

Did any of the War-pact nations utilize ERA blocks on either T55s or T-72s before the Blocks breakup in 1990?

I'm aware that the Soviets started deploying them in about 1985 but not of anyone else using them.

Thanks!

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse01 Mar 2021 2:49 a.m. PST

I thought they did ? But I may be wrong … that was a long time ago for me. old fart

Some pics but I can't find any dates ? link

lkmjbc301 Mar 2021 9:35 a.m. PST

Maybe…but probably not… if so, very late… post 1988.

I remember discussions of T72AVs being deployed in Czechoslovakia in the very late 80s. Who knows if they were Russian second line troops or Pact troops in T72M1s with added reactive.

For the main Pact allies… I would say, no… Germany and Poland were considered too untrustworthy to get the newest stuff.

As to some of the others… maybe.

Yugoslavia definitely had the armor developed… The same with the Czechs…but, who knows?

Joe Collins

ReallySameSeneffeAsBefore01 Mar 2021 10:36 a.m. PST

I'm pretty sure that no WP allied nation deployed ERA on their tanks until after they weren't WP nations any more. Worth us recalling that the Kontact 1 ERA wasn't authorised for production till Jan 1985 and even by 1990-1 only about one in six T64/T80s in GSFG were the 'V' variants with ERA fitments. Rare they may have been, but they do look good.

Perun Gromovnik01 Mar 2021 11:31 a.m. PST

The Soviet Union was the next country to use ERA, under the name Kontakt ERA. It was first introduced in 1984 and featured a tile design similar to Blazers, though using one or two reactive elements stacked together for better effectiveness. Like the Blazer, these plates were highly effective against HEAT rounds, but were generally ineffective against kinetic penetrators. Following the Soviets, the reactive armour was soon adopted by many other countries in the 1980s, from mainly Eastern bloc countries such as Czechoslovakia, Ukraine, and Poland. Today the ERA plates are still viable against modern anti-tank weaponry, especially when complemented with other tank defensive measures.

link

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse01 Mar 2021 5:28 p.m. PST

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Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP01 Mar 2021 9:25 p.m. PST

I'm mostly using Battlefront Miniatures Soviet tanks right now but I was hoping to mix in some of Khurasans great looking tanks with ERA.

Guess I'll have to use them for my Soviet T-64s.

Perun Gromovnik02 Mar 2021 7:11 a.m. PST

Interesting text, i hope you will enjoy it:

link

Perun Gromovnik02 Mar 2021 7:20 a.m. PST

Soviet Union: Kontakt-5 (1984.),
Czechoslovakia: DYNA (1988.),
Poland: ERAWA-1 (late 1980s)

I hope this helps

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP02 Mar 2021 9:49 a.m. PST

Peru, that's good stuff! Thank you for sharing!

Perun Gromovnik02 Mar 2021 10:29 a.m. PST

No problem mate

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse02 Mar 2021 12:04 p.m. PST

Good intel !

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP03 Mar 2021 2:10 a.m. PST

I don't know about Warsaw Pact countries. I that the Iraqis had it in 1991 when I was in Kuwait.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik03 Mar 2021 9:36 a.m. PST

I was hoping to mix in some of Khurasans great looking tanks with ERA.

If you get the Khurasan T-64BV, can you take a few size comparison pics with the BF non-ERA T-64 and post it on TMP? I'm tempted to buy a few, but I fear that the size discrepancy may be too glaring between the two like the BF T-72 and the Khurasan T-90. Much appreciated.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP03 Mar 2021 12:06 p.m. PST

If I pick some up I sure will Fanatik.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik03 Mar 2021 1:04 p.m. PST

Thanks, I previously asked for it here:

TMP link

I also posted some nice comparison pics in that thread between the BF T-72 and the Zvezda one with Kontakt-5 ERA. They are a near perfect match.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP03 Mar 2021 2:35 p.m. PST

Wow! I see what you mean about the difference. That's too bad.

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