Old Contemptible | 27 Feb 2021 3:37 p.m. PST |
+1 Lascaris My only issue with the gentleman is that the ignore and stifle functions do not work when perusing individual forums and I click on what seems to be an interesting topic only to get link with no context or description. Not a huge burden to retreat from the thread but in some forums it is not trivial to wade through Tangospam(tm) to find useful discussions. My point exactly. Allow me to eliminate him from the individual boards. Then everyone else can dance the Tango to the hearts content. |
Old Contemptible | 27 Feb 2021 3:43 p.m. PST |
The ratio of supporters to non-supporters maybe due to the fact that if anyone dares to criticize Tango, will more often than not, after all the torches and pitchforks, will get one in the doghouse or worst. |
mkenny | 27 Feb 2021 4:00 p.m. PST |
Here is a handy easy-to-use tool than can replicate Tango's links: link |
von Schwartz ver 2 | 27 Feb 2021 4:22 p.m. PST |
Seriously, this is waaaay worst than a coupla Tango posts!!! |
Tony Adams | 27 Feb 2021 4:24 p.m. PST |
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von Schwartz ver 2 | 27 Feb 2021 4:26 p.m. PST |
Dammit, What the hell is going on. Why does my post at 6:24PM EST show up at 3:24PM PST? My head is exploding!!!!! |
Lascaris | 27 Feb 2021 4:59 p.m. PST |
I would hazard to guess that the ratio of support is driven by people not wanting to pitch into this endless discussion of To Tango or Not To Tango yet again. My only issue with the gentleman is that the ignore and stifle functions do not work when perusing individual forums and I click on what seems to be an interesting topic only to get link with no context or description. Not a huge burden to retreat from the thread but in some forums it is not trivial to wade through Tangospam(tm) to find useful discussions. |
USAFpilot | 27 Feb 2021 5:25 p.m. PST |
It's simple; if you don't like Tango's post, quit clicking on them. Three pages of grown men whining about a poster who is more popular than themselves. Get over yourselves. Long live Tango! |
USAFpilot | 27 Feb 2021 5:27 p.m. PST |
Test, the TMP clock it screwed up. Post is appearing in the middle of this thread. |
Legion 4 | 27 Feb 2021 5:31 p.m. PST |
Well I have no problem with Tango … if you don't like a thread don't click on it ? Am I missing something here ? 🤔 |
Long Valley Gamer | 27 Feb 2021 5:36 p.m. PST |
I think that Tango is a net positive for the site. Often times I scratched my head why he selected certain wargames to feature and quotes from various sources but I never found him disturbing. I just opened what I thought had some interest to me. At times I found some useful info to a site or product I hadn't been familiar with. I wish I knew what drives him to post like he does?? |
CeruLucifus | 27 Feb 2021 6:02 p.m. PST |
Hi Bill, I think you can solve everyone's objections with 2 enhancements: 1) Add Directory entries (or just new Links) to the front page the same way Message Boards display, based on interests in our Member Settings. Appearing in the feed based on Member Interests will make Tango's posts available for people that enjoy them, and provide a filter for those who don't want to see everything. 2) Add a "Comment on this Directory listing" button, the same way we have for hobby articles and news articles.
Allowing a Comment button lets a conversation ensue over the links, if warranted. So Tango can still be social with us. My main objection to Tango's links over the years is often they weren't properly cited, that is, there would be title and link, but no context clarifying the source. By structuring the Directory Links section you've fixed that, which I appreciate.
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arthur1815 | 27 Feb 2021 6:17 p.m. PST |
I never had a problem with Tango's posts. I just ignored those that did not appear to offer anything of interest, but did find some very interesting material and took part in two Kickstarters that I would probably never have discovered but for his links. Bring him back! |
Arjuna | 27 Feb 2021 6:40 p.m. PST |
In a post of mine that was officially nuked and I was dawghoused for because I 'allegedly' personnally attacked Tango by motivating there could be good and understandable reasons for the way he communicates, nobody here ever considered, I also mentioned why I personally think he is an asset, at least for me in the form I know his online personality since about eight years ago I think, because he provides inspirational base material for themed socialising and entertainment. People do not come to bulletin boards online to find Information about questions they already know. That's what search engines are for. They come to be entertained, get inspired and talk more or less about things that distract them from everyday life or the other way round to talk about things they care about and cannot talk to elsewhere the way they like to. In said post I also mentioned that I have limits of tolerability what I find discussable and the way it is discussed. One may say Tango does not provide more than a link in about 99,9999 percent of cases and none of the points I listed above, but that is the way he is, so to say. And if I would be snarky, I would say at least his links to coolminiornot and other high quality paint stuff online have upped the niveau of minis painted by poster on this board shown on this board about ten times or more. Alas, do not fear, I will never ever critisize one of those paint job atrocieties I have already seen here. As long as I could make a scenario or a miniature out of a hint from Tango I'm okay. And I must say, in about 80 percent of cases that is no problem for me. I'm with FusilierDan on his alternative solution, allthough the whole shebang of allegedly cluttered boards is no problem for me. But hey, I process dozends and more messages, news, Infos, articles and the like everyday with and without tech help. So I'm probably used to it. Others not, I grok that. So be it as it is. Things come to an end,thats the way it is. Where ever you are, who ever you are and whatever is your motivation. Thank you Tango01 Over and out. |
Basha Felika | 27 Feb 2021 6:44 p.m. PST |
I've just tried the ‘featured link' button on the left side and I really don't see how it is especially helpful if you don't know what you're looking for, and it means we lose all those ‘hey, look at this' moments that Tango provides that send us down far more interesting rabbit holes. Please reconsider this decision. |
Flashman14 | 27 Feb 2021 6:47 p.m. PST |
Good grief – please bring back Tango. |
Wolfhag | 27 Feb 2021 7:27 p.m. PST |
Tango, Arjuna said it better than I ever could. Tango, maybe it's time you got your own site. Personally, I can see the need for a news/hobby aggregator that saves people like me the time in going to specific sites to get information. You have a real talent that is not being appreciated. The amount of time you must spend is a true labor of love for the gaming and miniatures industry. I for one appreciate it and I see many others do. I've called you out for posting clickbait items that have nothing to offer but I've clicked on the same BS myself. For me, you have a 90% hit ratio. That's pretty damn good. You've done me a great service in bringing other sites to my attention that I would have missed. You've been a catalyst generating countless discussions on TMP many of which have 100+ postings and you rarely people off with your comments. That's rare. Bill gave you a free 3-month membership. Really Bill, a lifetime membership to Tango would be the best business move you could make for your advertisers. Tango, if you are interested in starting your own site (you should be) that will do you justice and attract advertisers to potentially generate an income contact me at treadheadgames@gmail.com. If you are ever in the US look me up. I'll be in California until May. I've played against the Pumas Rugby team, they kicked our ass. Probably the most physical team I ever played against. Long live Tango! Wolfhag |
Old Contemptible | 27 Feb 2021 8:00 p.m. PST |
FusilierDan, I had a similar idea but got slapped down hard. Millions of pitchforks and millions of torches. Just give him his own place to do his posting. That way those who love his posts can Tango all the time. A better idea I think is to allow members to remove his post from the individual boards, as several people have already suggested. Ignore and stifle doesn't make much of a difference. I can't believe this entre thread hasn't been removed yet. |
Old Contemptible | 27 Feb 2021 8:19 p.m. PST |
I like the new links directory. I immediately found an AWI scenario I didn't have. |
LAP1954 | 27 Feb 2021 8:54 p.m. PST |
Blocked his post a long time ago. I don't want to hear him Constantly. This is TMP not Tango! Another one of the reasons I will not be a supporting member. I have been visiting this site daily for many years. |
Tango01 | 27 Feb 2021 9:29 p.m. PST |
Ha!Ha!… LAP you kill me!… in whole 2019 you contribute with 7 (seven) post… in whole 2020 with 5 post… and you come here suddenly showing up affected and interested? Ha!Ha!Ha!…. so good!
But much funnier is the friend Old Contemptible… who found a new Scenario in a place that nobody visited until the present scandal … in a list of 5! … funny … if it makes 8 years that you have visited TMP and have seen thousands of thousands of threads … did it take a visit to the link directory to make such a discovery?…
Guys.. please stop kill me laughing … my spleen is about to burst. (smile)
Amicalement Armand
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Editor in Chief Bill | 27 Feb 2021 10:26 p.m. PST |
Why does my post at 6:24PM EST show up at 3:24PM PST? Because TMP is on PST? |
Wolfhag | 27 Feb 2021 10:31 p.m. PST |
Ouch!!!! Don't mess with Tango. Tango's current stats: First Visit: 15 June 2010 Membership Started 16 June 2010 Membership Length 3,910 days Most Recent Visit: 27 February 2021 Verified: Yes Good Trader Score: gold star56gold star # of Forum Posts: 170,024 Is that an average of 43.4 posts per day over almost 11 years? Is that even humanely possible? Wolfhag |
Editor in Chief Bill | 27 Feb 2021 10:31 p.m. PST |
I've just tried the ‘featured link' button on the left side and I really don't see how it is especially helpful if you don't know what you're looking for, and it means we lose all those ‘hey, look at this' moments that Tango provides that send us down far more interesting rabbit holes. You get far more 'look at this' moments under the new system, and they are actually relevant, so much more likely to be 'what you're looking for'. For example, if you are on the Ancients part of the forum, the featured links in the sidebar are Ancients links. |
Tango01 | 28 Feb 2021 12:07 a.m. PST |
Question: If what you need Bill is links in your sidebar … is it possible to obtain them without having to completely eliminate the threads that mention them? … is it not possible to transfer the information to the Link Directory without having to make the original thread disappear? … Amicalement Armand |
dick garrison | 28 Feb 2021 3:27 a.m. PST |
Tango, why don't you start a blog? and fill it with all, the inks, pictures etc… Then we who want to read your stuff could follow and not have to scroll down the TMP every day to find it. Cheers Roger. |
14Bore | 28 Feb 2021 4:18 a.m. PST |
An old theory of mine was Tango was world traveling business man who always went east to west, gaining time that his day was longer than anyone else. |
Volleyfire | 28 Feb 2021 7:03 a.m. PST |
Possible titles for Tango's blog site on a postcard to the usual address. Tango's Meeting Place is my suggestion. |
von Schwartz ver 2 | 28 Feb 2021 7:06 a.m. PST |
Because TMP is on PST? grin I thought you on the East coast??? |
von Schwartz ver 2 | 28 Feb 2021 7:10 a.m. PST |
Oh and BTW +1 USAFPilot can count on you for concise replies that cut to the point! Three pages of grown men whining about a poster who is more popular than themselves. Get over yourselves. Nuff Said!!! |
brass1 | 28 Feb 2021 8:45 a.m. PST |
I get more enjoyment from Tango than almost anyone else on this site. If you don't like his postings, ain't nobody makin' you read them. LT |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 28 Feb 2021 8:59 a.m. PST |
Dear Tango, you are absolutely correct. I've patronized your posts instead of stifling you because they do not bother me except for their frequency and volume, but I've also always believed that they don't belong in the main forum, much like Blue Fez for different reasons. Please don't take this as being banished into oblivion but as a fresh opportunity to keep providing the great service that's appreciated by so many here. |
lukas4 | 28 Feb 2021 9:06 a.m. PST |
Sorry, Bill. The meager number of posts left after removing Tango from the main page show there is a lack of activity or interest in contributing to the site. If there was a groundswell of resentment to his posts, there is a silent (or not so silent now) group that miss his post. Not so sure what the problem was. I don't have the time or resource to post, so I admit I am not a contributing member of the our community. But I do appreciate the site very much. Tango's contributions added a value to the site that diminish the site's value without them easily accessible. Tango's posts have pointed me to other blogs and websites that have educated me to the hobby as a whole. And TMP was the portal to those sites. And the way your site is structured made that so much easier to navigate than other sites. Basically, Tango's contributions have made your site a better site. (IMO) And if you mention the "links" again, (sincerely) please provide a brief visual tutorial of the steps necessary to see these posts. That would be beneficial. I am having trouble seeing how to conveniently use that feature. Maybe I am a luddite. |
brass1 | 28 Feb 2021 9:46 a.m. PST |
FWIW and also mentioned by other members but worth another mention: a simple Google search will produce far more results than what you get from the links directory. I have tested this today on several different links and Google won hands down. LT |
Bismarck | 28 Feb 2021 10:59 a.m. PST |
For those who have followed orders and gone through the "links 3.0" maze, you have found that comments cannot be made, so any thought of discussion, questions for the poster or about the subject cannot be posted. This cannot make life easier for Bill or the illustrious editors, but only create more work. I do not think copyright is an issue, nor opinions about Tango and his contributions. This is censorship and stifles any possibility of further information exchange about various topics. Bill, did you not once say this site was for the purpose of growing our hobby and providing a wealth of information and answers to gamers queries. This decision may not have shut the door, but sure will limit the wealth of information TMP has provided us over the years. This move does not strictly single out Tango. So it will be felt by others who post and follow up with links for additional information. To the Tango haters, the old saying be careful what you wish for may just soon wind up biting you in the XXX as well. Sam Lemonds |
Starfury Rider | 28 Feb 2021 11:15 a.m. PST |
I've had a look at the links section also, and agree it is not a friendly set up. I understand there's a hyperlink to a particular item on the left hand side of most forum pages. So from the Home page I can, right now, see a link to the Imperial War Museums. I click on that and I get a page with a picture from the site, a short description and a hyperlink to the IWM site proper. TMP link If I click on the Links Directory home, I get a clone of the board topics as found at the top of the forum directory; TMP link TMP link If I click on WWII land warfare in both of these, I get a further menu, with considerably more sections in the forum option that the links option. If I click on 'historical reference' in links I can see included the IWM link that was featured on the left hand side when I gave this a go. That's more clicks than going via the forums pages when starting from the message boards home page. There is indeed no means to leave comments on pages in the links directory. There is no way to add a ink yourself, it has to be sent as a request to Gwen or Bill direct. I am still unsure if this means that a link in a forum discussion can still be included in a forum post? Gary |
deadhead | 28 Feb 2021 11:51 a.m. PST |
Try looking at new posts today. Over here it is 1835 on a Sunday afternoon, after some great football (some of you call it soccer, but that's OK. You can have our senior citizens who do not want to play in China) and a great Sunday family lunch, with only just enough wine. Just enough. But back to WWII or Napoleonic Discussion or VN or etc etc how many new postings today? Not one…..actually. Where I checked, Covid and all, not one single one. Collectively we are pretty pathetic…all of us. Maybe I meant apathetic. Every UK contributor will understand this weekend that a referee can get it wrong…and comically so. The mistake is not to say so and hold one's hand up and say so (did not happen here of course) Would we think any less of the Editor if he said "OK, I hear what you say."? "I do not agree with the present system, but am happy to let Tango appear as before, on these conditions" These could include credit the source of links, maybe get a friend to add some content or comment, try to avoid repeating things that appeared only days earlier in a different post. Above all drop the response posts that bear no relation to the earlier replies. The "Glad you liked it boys" when responders clearly tore it to pieces! I have said this to Armand. I have criticised him but think his input is simply indispensable. Literally so, without him, TMP does not keep going. Would we think less of the Editor if he said "I got this wrong"? It certainly is not the UK way. It induces massive respect over here. |
Starfury Rider | 28 Feb 2021 12:42 p.m. PST |
A compromise solution does seem the best option, however almost 140 posts in and I'm not sure what the root cause of the change in TMP policy is. Tango has posted for literally a decade and not changed anything in his own approach. If TMP can no longer host his posts, what is it specifically in their format that has caused this? Is it the use of a copy and paste from another site in each and every one of Tango's posts without permission of some sort? Is it the use of a link without a specific explanation of what site it's to? In short, could Tango continue to post by amending his style? If yes, how? The next step would then be up to Tango to at least try the any new system. Re the drop in other contributions to the forum, that may realistically be a product of Tango's dominant status. The sheer number of threads he creates does not literally prevent others from posting; Tango can post 50 threads in a day and that does not prevent 50 other individuals from creating threads. There is though an argument that Tango has become the main provider across all boards, which may deter other folks from engaging more themselves. They can still do so, but they may not feel it worthwhile given their threads will indeed be quickly relegated half way down the page. The boards are a community asset, but they don't always feel like that. Gary |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 28 Feb 2021 1:59 p.m. PST |
What Tango has accomplished is truly remarkable in that he has, in a short period of time, managed to transform a humble web-zine dedicated to playing with toy soldiers into the greatest news/op-ed, blog and multimedia aggregator that's not AI-driven I have ever seen, all without originating a single creative input of his own in any of his 170,000+ posts. I can only shake my head in wonder and jaw-dropping awe at this astounding achievement. |
von Schwartz ver 2 | 28 Feb 2021 3:56 p.m. PST |
What Tango has accomplished is truly remarkable in that he has, in a short period of time, managed to transform a humble web-zine dedicated to playing with toy soldiers into the greatest news/op-ed, blog and multimedia aggregator that's not AI-driven I have ever seen, all without originating a single creative input of his own in any of his 170,000+ posts. And this is bad because………..? |
La Belle Ruffian | 28 Feb 2021 5:43 p.m. PST |
Arthur1815. Tango shouldn't be linking to Kickstarters anymore (or any new releases, whether paid or not), so that's no great loss. However the links directory could be a good place to allow paid advertisements for the duration of their cycle. Likewise, sales by advertisers could be promoted in this manner. Certainly they would be more current displayed in the sidebars than a lot of old workbench articles. deadhead, I disagree. The word u-turn is flung around far too much in the UK currently. Anecdotally, it does seem that as the volume of new threads has dropped, there are more responses on average to individual threads. There could be any number of reasons why that might be, but one weekend is unlikely to provide much data. Why would Bill change things suddenly after all this work on his part? Starfury, I posted in another thread recently, at length, with a number of reasons* why bloggers have become more vocal and suggestions for how to have a more positive approach. I won't repeat them in depth but you can read the TMP Policy on Links thread. Von Schwartz. Because it's a forum for discussing wargaming and some of would rather see 15 threads with an actual discussion you can get your teeth into. Rather than 49 with a handful apiece and a Napoleonic/Ultra-modern flame war for the 50th. (And you could probably include a couple of re-posts and a duplication of someone posting their own work in the 49 too). The fact is there are rules on the site which the owner subjects all posters to. Tango has been sanctioned repeatedly for posting links to sites hosting copyrighted material, particularly rules and books, as well as malware. I doubt many other members would get so many repeat chances. He hasn't been banned but if he'd listened and engaged with people's frustrations rather than mocking them or ignoring them on the grounds that 'it's on the internet/lots of other members don't mind so you shouldn't' perhaps Bill wouldn't have acted. I'm not sure how much work this policy has been for the Bill, but Tango leading the editors a merry dance for several weeks, whilst they post the few words he'd been (initially asked politely) to as a courtesy, must have got old quickly. Ironically, the lengthiest posts from him have been when the policy has been put in place. If he'd actually considered how his actions frustrate others, damage the site's reputation elsewhere and create extra work for the editors, rather than apparently relying on sympathy and trying to game the system, we wouldn't be here. - Those who repeatedly state his links are the main reason for coming here, there's a place that even collates them now. I actually think some of the categories would be helpful for the forums. - Those who repeatedly tell us/demonstrate they never actually visit the blogs he links too (and are happy to trash the work of actual content providers here), perhaps you can see why they might get increasingly frustrated at being ignored or mocked? Hard to see the benefit of all the extra views if you're only viewing hot-linked images here.* - Those who want to chat with Tango, you still can. - Those who wish they'd 'been Tangoed', you've always been able to post your links. I suspect the greater response rate for OP's whose own work is being shared is because we know that someone has put the effort in themselves. *IP doesn't seem to be an issue for many bloggers or websites, just the courtesy of acknowledging their work. However, a number of posters still don't seem understand that hot-linking pictures isn't a cost-neutral activity. Tango posting dozens of threads a day, cherry-picking multiple photos from each, quickly adds up, especially if it happens regularly to you. A commercial site consuming the bandwidth of multiple hobbyists and antagonising them in the process is not good public relations, in addition to the issue of financial costs. |
Czar Alexander II | 28 Feb 2021 6:07 p.m. PST |
Bill I'll add my 2 cents………what links are you talking about ? I don't see them in my browser. I did find the links directory……….imho thats not any better than Tangos postings. Maybe worse. No really worse His post were quite prolific maybe execessive but there were many gems in the things he did post. Who gets dawghoused or shadow banned seems a bit random To use a line from a previous post : Please restore the TMP we know and love. |
epturner | 28 Feb 2021 6:17 p.m. PST |
La Belle Ruffian… That's what I've been saying. Thank you. Eric |
BobGrognard | 28 Feb 2021 8:12 p.m. PST |
The issue seems to me to be the following: 1. Half of what Tango posts is irrelevant to wargaming. 2. Tango posts too much and that swamps the boards, making other posters' comments less visible. 3. Tango seems unable to do as asked and provide sources for the links he posts. Surely a simple solution would be for Tango to simply use some discretion and discernment in posting simply what is wargames related, thereby halving his posts? It's honestly not difficult. I think it's most unfair to criticise Bill when a poster simply seems to have the online version of verbal diarrhoea. Tango's inability to display any self control or conform to simple requests does rather suggest a lack of respect for Bill and the members here. |
Tango01 | 28 Feb 2021 9:22 p.m. PST |
La Belle Rufian… good thead… also take note that between December/January/February you participated in 12 threads… seven of them related with me… too much critic imho for a guy with that performance here… (smile) By the way… have you an idea how many people I have "Tangoed"… and because of that take note of TMP …and come here…? If I could make my theads during 11 years without any problem with Bill or his Staff… why now?… what have change?… people like you that don't like the way I post?… it seems that there are plenty more that like them… (smile)… and if you like statistics… see how much improve the number of visits since my "forced vacations" and the next days… It is more than fanciful to believe that due to the mere absence of my theads in TMP … suddenly the site will be flooded with new (or old) members who will feed the desire to read or comment on the different Forums on this site… Anyway … knowing Bill during these years … I know positively that he will not change his policy … for anyone … so stay calm and enjoy our beloved site in a whole.. Armand |
John the OFM | 01 Mar 2021 2:29 a.m. PST |
If this is a new policy that singles Tango01 out for special treatment, I'm against it. My opposition to such policies date back to 2011 when Dear Editor oversaw a concerted effort to humiliate me. He approved and ran a bunch of Polls that ran along the lines of "Should the OFM …." My objection ran to the point that I was locked out. Eventually I was allowed back. But I still hold a grudge. Once or twice a proposal was floated to allow the TMP membership to essentially vote someone "off the island". One example was a poll to limit member in good standing Connard Sage to two posts per day. I led the opposition to that foulest practice of democracy, ostracism. If he is to be believed, only Tango01 has his new threads ransacked and pillaged. Maybe so. A few new threads by others appeared, fully intact, and with Featured Link appearing on the left margin, bottom. No harm apparently to them. But was Tango01 singled out for special treatment? He seems to think so. For obvious reasons, I'm vehemently opposed to such singling out. But if not, and he's acting like a 13 year old Drama Queen whose mother limited her to 1 hour of Tik Tok on a school night, he should man up. Note that according to TMP policy, that is NOT a "personal attack". I merely described a hypothetical action, not the person himself. |
John the OFM | 01 Mar 2021 2:58 a.m. PST |
However, let's review some history here. Tango01 posts on the average 50 new threads per day. Derek H on Frothers insists his record is 71. Well, he must have a lot of free time on his hands to actually compile a spreadsheet to track Tango01. Is that healthy for TMP, when over half of all threads are started by him? I once counted a consecutive run of 28, all initiated by Tango01. Many along the lines of "10 things you didn't know about George Washington!" Or pictures of anatomically weird women wearing armor that would do them serious harm should they move in the wrong direction. But such dumb threads were not the real issue, despite the sheer volume. Where the problem occurred was his practice of lifting pictures and text from people's blogs without permission. Some here have said that the owners should be "happy" about it. I have a good friend who is definitely not. Remember a few years ago when someone went so far as to insert text denying permission to rip him off, specifically denying permission to "that weasel Tango01"? There's another who didn't appreciate. In a quixotic gesture that I knew would fail, I started objecting to this a few months ago. In essence, Tango01 said that he's been doing this for years, and wasn't about to change. He kept that attitude even after someone contacted the editor of a professional historical on line blog who considered that practice bad manners and unprofessional. I may be out of line here, but I suspect that much has been going on behind the scenes that we will never know about. Perhaps some "heavy hitters" have objected? I'm just guessing. Why would Bill and Editor Katie go to all the work to clean up after Tango01 to post "from the ‘I love Benedict Arnold blog" after he spans yet another? This new policy seems to suggest a lot of heavy lifting on the part of the Staff also. As Tango01 has shown in the past, he is too stiff necked to change or adapt. So he whines and acts like he is being picked on. After my 8 day stint in the DH, I had decided to treat Tango01 with total indifference, except to ridicule those new entries on the Needs More Boobies board, or to demand he stop demanding that the USA keep throwing away lives in lost wars. But all this happened in the interim, so I thought I would comment. I'm not one who finds his contributions invaluable. In fact I think the opposite. I find him detrimental to TMP. But I don't think that a Bill of Attainder is the way to go. I would instead put an Editorial foot down and override a previous poll. I would limit ALL TMP members to 5 new threads per day, with no editorial cleanup or followup required. If this earns me another stay in the DH, I'm good with that. I left an unfinished jigsaw puzzle on the table. |
Legion 4 | 01 Mar 2021 3:43 a.m. PST |
Did you find that baseball and glove I left there ? |
John the OFM | 01 Mar 2021 5:24 a.m. PST |
Right behind the Rita Hayworth poster, as usual. I left some Slim Jims too. |
Old Contemptible | 01 Mar 2021 8:24 a.m. PST |
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