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Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP29 Jan 2021 7:36 a.m. PST

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…in case you were fretting about the colours of your Companion cavalry cloak borders. More purple than I'd have guessed.

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79thPA Supporting Member of TMP29 Jan 2021 7:44 a.m. PST

That's pretty cool.

Grelber29 Jan 2021 9:18 a.m. PST

I also expected something a bit different--more of a reddish color.

Grelber

Legionarius29 Jan 2021 11:18 a.m. PST

Beautiful color. However, it should be used sparingly. For leaders, generals and elite units only.

JJartist29 Jan 2021 12:49 p.m. PST

Tyrian purple from rock snails and Sea Hares can be various shades. The sea Hare's ink in our SoCal tide pools are deep magenta, and doesn't fade out of swimming trunks.

Tyrian Purple wiki with color match card:

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"In 1998, by means of a lengthy trial and error process, an English engineer named John Edmonds rediscovered a process for dyeing with Tyrian purple. He researched recipes and observations of dyers from the 15th century to the 18th century and explored the biotechnology process behind woad fermentation. After collaborating with a chemist, Edmonds hypothesized that an alkaline fermenting vat was necessary. He studied an incomplete ancient recipe for Tyrian purple recorded by Pliny the Elder. By altering the percentage of sea salt in the dye vat and adding potash, he was able to successfully dye wool a deep purple colour.

Sea Hare ink, and page how to make dye:

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I go back and forth between the magenta and the Tyrian mixed, and more blue shades, just because I like variety.

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Old Glory Sponsoring Member of TMP29 Jan 2021 1:19 p.m. PST

I suspect people back then were well beyond the "primordial soup" and were capable of much more then we give them credit for?
I highly doubt that mankind just suddenly "got smart" 1n the late 19th century?


Russ Dunaway

Legionarius29 Jan 2021 3:37 p.m. PST

Beautiful unit of Successor Guard Cavalry. Fit for a Prince.

Twilight Samurai30 Jan 2021 3:08 a.m. PST

We should all wear more purple.

Swampster30 Jan 2021 4:59 a.m. PST

The paper link that announced this has some samples of material dyed using different species – they wanted to see if they could determine which particular snail provided the colour as there isn't a just one type of murex snail.
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Eumelus Supporting Member of TMP30 Jan 2021 10:05 a.m. PST

"We should all wear more purple." TS, are you a Gogol Bordello fan?

Swampster30 Jan 2021 3:56 p.m. PST

"are you a Gogol Bordello fan?"

Never heard of them until this afternoon, when I heard the song on the radio. Now I see a second reference to them. Crazy.

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