"Civil War Myth Busting: The Fictional Confederate Irish" Topic
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Tango01 | 07 Jan 2021 10:24 p.m. PST |
…Brigade at Fredericksburg "Another anniversary of the battle of Fredericksburg has come and gone. Mention of the December 1862 battle immediately brings to mind the repeated Federal attacks against Marye's Heights that all failed to reach their objective. One of the most famous of those attacks was by the Army of the Potomac's heralded Irish Brigade; going into action with 1,200 men, the five regiments suffered 45% casualties by the time their action was done. The story, already rife with drama, has morphed recently into a legend far more dramatic: The Irish Brigade fought Confederates who were also Irish! The two opposing sides of Irishmen, having immigrated to their new country, now found themselves on the same battlefield shooting each other to pieces. Sometimes it's a regiment of Confederate Irishmen, sometimes it's even a full Confederate Irish Brigade. Sometimes the story goes so far as to suggest that Robert E. Lee himself feared the Confederate Irish would not shoot their Union brethren, and so had reserves moved up just in case. Except, there's a problem: The whole story is fake. There wasn't a Confederate Irish Brigade (or even regiment) at the base of Marye's Heights. So how did the impression that there was get started?…" Read more here link Amicalement Armand |
Editor in Chief Bill | 08 Jan 2021 4:21 a.m. PST |
Courtesy of the Emerging Civil War website |
Bill N | 08 Jan 2021 7:24 a.m. PST |
The name break on your post is unfortunate Armand. That there were Confederate Irish isn't a myth. It is a fact. What didn't exist was a distinct Confederate brigade made of of Irish troops. |
DisasterWargamer | 08 Jan 2021 8:13 a.m. PST |
It is estimated that 20,000 Irish soldiers fought for the Confederate Army and 160,000 fought in the Union Army during the Civil War. While there were a number of Irish regiments, including the ‘Fighting 69th', in the Union Army, the only Confederate regiment to be formally designated as Irish was the 10th, raised at Nashville, Tennessee, in April 1861. Under the command of Colonel Randall McGavock, an Irish-American, the regiment saw action in the Western theatre, fighting in Mississippi and Tennessee. From the 10th Tennessee Re-enactment site tenthtennessee.org
Tenth Tennessee Volunteer Infantry Simply Referred As "THE IRISH" – Rebel Sons of Erin From Ireland History website link |
Frederick | 08 Jan 2021 12:28 p.m. PST |
Agreed – lots of Irishmen in the Confederacy, but the Union was the only one with an Irish Brigade (the Confederate song nonwithstanding) YouTube link |
Tango01 | 08 Jan 2021 12:30 p.m. PST |
I just copy the original name/tittle my friend… Thanks for the info!…
Amicalement Armand |
John the Greater | 09 Jan 2021 2:07 p.m. PST |
There is a book on the subject called "Clear The Confederate Way" It is not perfect, so have a saltshaker handy. As pointed out, the Confederates did not have units based on ethnicity. The Union did, and not just Irish. There were Germans, Scots, Norwegians, Swedes, etc. |
Tango01 | 10 Jan 2021 3:48 p.m. PST |
Thanks also my good friend!. Amicalement Armand |
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