| Tango01 | 04 Jan 2021 10:31 p.m. PST |
Really good!
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ScottWashburn  | 05 Jan 2021 7:11 a.m. PST |
Fantastic work except for the paper the soldier is looking at. What is it? It's way too large to be a personal letter, but it doesn't look like a newspaper or an official document. Really odd that the artist didn't do a better job on that. It would be no problem to reduce a period newspaper down to the proper scale and put that in the figure's hands. It really detracts from an otherwise brilliant job. |
Marc33594  | 05 Jan 2021 7:37 a.m. PST |
The size and shape seems about right to me for Stars & Stripes. |
| Tango01 | 05 Jan 2021 12:02 p.m. PST |
Happy you like it guys! (smile) Amicalement
Armand |
| ScottWashburn | 06 Jan 2021 5:20 a.m. PST |
Yes, a Stars and Stripes would make sense. So why not use a reduced image of an actual Stars and Stripes? The thing in the model is just rows of squiggles on a white sheet. |
 deadhead | 06 Jan 2021 9:11 a.m. PST |
Talking of Star and Stripes, I was struck by the poor rendering of the right shoulder patch (almost more like Revolutionary War) in stark contrast to the amazing modelling and painting. Then it struck me. 101st (and that he is to judge by the screaming eagle…. even if shown on an olive background, not black) did not wear the flag shoulder patch for Normandy. But it is very striking work indeed |
| Tango01 | 06 Jan 2021 12:08 p.m. PST |
Good eyes here… (smile) Amicalement
Armand |
| Marc33594 | 06 Jan 2021 1:12 p.m. PST |
Actually, if I remember correctly, the 101st Pathfinders DID wear the American flag patch. |
| deadhead | 07 Jan 2021 12:30 p.m. PST |
Now that is an interesting suggestion. I tried Google for "101st Pathfinders Normandy" and got many group photos, some actually naming what clearly were Pathfinders with 101, but I could not find any wearing Old Glory. 82nd undoubtedly. |
| Marc33594 | 08 Jan 2021 8:54 a.m. PST |
The World War II GI: US Army Uniforms 1941-45 in Color Photographs by Richard Windrow and Tim Hawkins Motorbooks International references the wearing of the US flag patch by 101st Pathfinders. Photographs in the book, however, are contemporary re-enactors and so far havent tracked down a period shot of any 101st para at Normandy with the patch. Will continue the search :) |
| Osterreicher | 08 Jan 2021 12:58 p.m. PST |
I looked at contemporary photos of the "Filthy Thirteen" – pathfinders for the 101st, and none seem to have the US flag patch. I don't know if any photos in the book or the text mentions having the patch (I don't have my copy handy). |
| deadhead | 08 Jan 2021 1:33 p.m. PST |
I have many such absolute convictions, usually proved totally wrong. But, if there was any evidence that Pathfinders for 101st did so it would be very interesting indeed. They did for Market Garden I think? (Stress think, should have checked first) |
| Marc33594 | 09 Jan 2021 9:16 a.m. PST |
Yes, both the 82nd and 101st wore American Flags for Market Garden. I believe the most common form was a brassard. |
| deephorse | 09 Jan 2021 11:57 a.m. PST |
If anyone has a copy of 'D-Day Paratroopers, the Americans', by Christophe Deschodt, I would refer them to page 76 where they will find the original photo upon which this model is based. The soldier has the Stars and Stripes on his right arm, and that's because he is a member if the 82nd. There is no photo of the soldier from his left side (of course), and so the Screaming Eagle patch is either an invention by the model maker or the painter. The original photo itself is credited to Robert Capa. If TMP was more user friendly I would attach a photo, but it isn't, and so I won't! The same book states that photographic evidence bears witness to only the 82nd being issued with the Stars and Stripes patch. |
| Marc33594 | 09 Jan 2021 2:38 p.m. PST |
Excellent information deephorse, many thanks. Here is the photo:
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| deadhead | 09 Jan 2021 3:05 p.m. PST |
Yes, great bit of detective work. Thanks both of you |
