"What will life be like after the coronavirus pandemic ends?" Topic

"As 2020 blessedly clangs to a close, it's tempting to wonder where we're headed once the pandemic is history. In the spirit of year-end curiosity about COVID-19's possible long-term effects, Science News posed this question to a few scholars: What major social changes do you see coming after the pandemic? As baseball's Yogi Berra once said, "It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future." The following forecasts, edited for length and clarity, aren't written in stone and aren't meant to be. But they raise some provocative possibilities…"
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You really think it's going to end with the next year of 2 ? It will become the new normal …

Why do you say that? With effective vaccines and more effective treatments, we'll be fine. Mother Nature is always trying to kill us off, but this one is not the big one.

My prediction is that the mega cities will get worse. People of means as well as the companies they work for will move out and take their tax dollars with them. Much more teleworking and a far better quality of life for those who can do it. Kinda like all those Utopian futures where everyone walks around parks dressed in togas.

The cities will get worse and continue their decline – think Detroit as the city of the future.

Interesting that each "expert" predicted different things.

Every year we are visited by a flu pandemic. Thousands of people die from it. So what? This is commonplace.
I agree with Legion 4 – this is just a new norm. All possible changes are that it will be possible to introduce a lot of unpopular measures, using the coronavirus as an excuse.

Kinda like all those Utopian futures where everyone walks around parks dressed in togas.

Oh, not that, please. Can't we wear our 80s Rude Boy outfits instead?

Why do you say that? With effective vaccines and more effective treatments, we'll be fine. Mother Nature is always trying to kill us off, but this one is not the big one.

Well there is plenty of "experts" not getting it "right" from Day One. Even with the vaccine you still have to wear masks and/or gloves the "experts" say … Just to be safe, but still no guarantees they seemed to say.

Of course I could be wrong. I heard some experts say, that the regular flu cases are very small. Most likely based on the the things we are doing to protect ourselves from COVID.

I am angry about whether the PRC released it on purpose or accidently, they will be literally getting away with murder or at least manslaughter …

Actually Legion I think that the reason that the regular flu cases are small is because everyone is diagnosing the regular flu as corono virus, They would rather get $1,300 USD per case rather than about $130. USD
Hey, I think I just discovered a cure for many common ailments and injuries, just call everything COVID. Pnuemonia-COVID, common cold-COVID, cancer-COVID, broken arm-COVID, stubbed toe-COVID, falling of a ladder-COVID (don't laugh, they did it, look it up).
Whether or not the PRC did it on purpose or by accident, now they know exactly how to throw the entire world into panic induced chaos.
Oh, no, another virus got loose!!!

We don't really know that the vaccines are effective, how long they last, etc., etc.. The doctors and companies that developed these don't even know, since everything is too new.

Also, the virus is mutating rather quickly, and a new variant is 70% more contagious, supposedly. It is believed that the vaccine(s) may work on that, but again, we don't really know for sure.

A lot of people are going to, and/or have already lost their businesses, incomes, homes, rental dwellings, life savings, etc., etc..

There are going to be a LOT more homeless, and/or destitute people in the next decade due to the lockdowns and poor decision-making by various leaders, which WILL stretch the social safety nets further, to the breaking point, and taxes will increase enormously due to that.

I suspect the fallout from this will be felt for the next 50 years, if not more.

99.5% of people age 70 and under survive the virus, so the over-reaction to it is far worse than the contagion.

Yep on the costs. Hospitals are paid a 20% "bonus" by Medicare for treating Wuhan Virus patients, so everything and anything is getting classed that way by many hospitals, including motorcycle accident deaths, etc., etc..

"Follow the money…..", since there's really BIG money to be made with this policy.

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Actually Legion I think that the reason that the regular flu cases are small is because everyone is diagnosing the regular flu as corono virus, They would rather get $1,300 USD USD per case rather than about $130. USD USD

That even makes more sense !!!!

99.5% of people age 70 and under survive the virus, so the over-reaction to it is far worse than the contagion.[/quote[

Citation?

Why does Thresher need a citation for that statement when there are dozens of others running around screaming that there are all these "new" cases and so many hospitalizations and deaths but no one asks them for a citation?
I have heard that number, ranging from 99.5% to 99.7% as the average survival rate, from medical officials and some government agencies but the mainstream media has never talked about survival rates and the number of positive test cases with mild or no symptoms. But if you pay close attention and listen not to what is said, but what is left unsaid, you can figure things out.

'Survive' and 'recover/recovery' are very fluid terms regarding Covid. My wife had it in late October, 'recovered' but is still feeling the aftereffects and will until the summer (probably).
Admittedly, it depends on your overall physical health and the particular strain you have. However, like all viruses, the mutations are turning out to be deadlier, as least according to reports in the MSM.
Frankly, I doubt life will return to anything resembling 'normal' for the next decade because the ripples of this pandemic and the aftershocks will continue to be felt.

Why does Thresher need a citation for that statement when there are dozens of others running around screaming that there are all these "new" cases and so many hospitalizations and deaths but no one asks them for a citation?

Well, you are wrong. I work with government officials and medical experts (I don't know what a medical official is) al the time, and require them to provide citations and data. And I frequently do it on these boards, as well.

I ask frequently in conversation, because scientific results are extremely specific and very easy to take out of context, for example a result of 97% false positives with one of hundreds of procedures occurring when you don't follow the directions being offered as 97% false positives for all tests under all conditions.

This happens all the time in the media, and people frequently read headline deep, stopping when they find what they want. Example:

Headline: Ohio State study: 30% of student athletes have heart damage linked to COVID-19

What you need to read to find out: out of more than two dozen athletes from the university who tested positive for COVID-19, 30% had cellular heart damage and 15% showed signs of heart inflammation caused by a condition known as myocarditis

Big difference.

And when you read deeper, you find out that for this small sample, there were significantly differed conditions for the tests like testing after symptoms presented or voluntary test post identified possible exposure.