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4th Cuirassier16 Nov 2020 2:43 a.m. PST

I'm struggling with painting the crowned GR cipher on 1/72 hussar shabraques. Does anyone do things like this as a decal?

Widowson17 Nov 2020 7:16 p.m. PST

My understanding is that those were never brought out of Great Britain. All British cavalry, heavy and light, rode bare saddles with a small grey blanket underneath.

4th Cuirassier22 Nov 2020 11:12 a.m. PST

Yeah, but if the models you're using depict them, you gotta paint 'em…:-)

Widowson08 Dec 2020 1:29 p.m. PST

No argument there. There are so many uses for decals on 1/72 figures: sabertaches, shabraque cyphers, even shako plates. I could do it on paper with my AutoCad program, but a decal is a specialized print job. I'll see if I can find a tutorial. I could also see doing cuff titles and shoulder patches for WW II figures, in any number of scales.

It's a lot of time and trouble, but maybe I could make enough money at it to at least pay for my time. I've done shabraques on paper. Marc the Plastics Fan has some of them, as a reference.

SHaT198408 Dec 2020 4:19 p.m. PST

It's a big thing in model railroading/railways depending where you are. [I do N scale.]
Microscale are the biggest I think.
Many am's use old Alp's (?) printers because of the ability to print white- I think they've been resurrected from eternity when OEM died/ killed off.
cheers dcup

Yes I'd probably buy them for 25/8mm just for the g***$#@! chasseurs sabretaches and eagle adornments (in aurore and gold).

Widowson08 Dec 2020 7:57 p.m. PST

Back in the late 1980s, I made some Model 1804 French flags. They were excellent, but a financial disaster. I'm not really inclined to try it again, even though the costly photographic technique I used then would not have to be repeated.

4th Cuirassier10 Dec 2020 1:55 p.m. PST

I have actually made some progress with my own, using GIMP freeware.

It happens that I have a few sheets of transparent decal paper from when I needed to replace some yellowed German cross decals on an aircraft model. As has been noted, you can't print white, so for the plane, I tried printing white cross shapes on white decal paper, and layering the black bits on top. It didn't work, because white decal paper is like the skin on milk and hopeless to work with. But I found that by masking and painting the white background, I was able to print off the black bits and layer it on top.

So first I scanned in some Airfix hussar horses. There are three horse poses and one wounded horse, which means there are seven different shabraque shapes to make, two per one and one for the one lying down. No, they're not – as you might hope – all the same shape.

Having scanned the horses in, I cut out the shabraque shape, coloured it dark blue, and then snipped zigzags off the edges. From a militaria site, I found good photos of an extant 1800 – 1820 shabraque with a GR cipher. The shabraque was red so I fiddled with that to get rid of it, then cut out, resized and pasted the cipher into either corner of each shabraque.

Here's what that looks like.

I printed them on paper a few times to make sure the size was right and when I've done all seven I'll print them on clear decal paper. I will need to go round each closely with a knife to make sure they're no bigger than the shabraque they're going onto.

The beauty of this is that the printer won't print the white. So those bits will be clear, meaning if I paint the shabraque first I should get a nice crisp white cipher.

Widowson10 Dec 2020 7:22 p.m. PST

No matter the technique, it ain't easy.

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