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John the Greater21 Oct 2020 7:15 a.m. PST

link

Something to think about

John the OFM21 Oct 2020 7:29 a.m. PST

The article assumes a priori that social media is a Good Thing.
I'm yet to be convinced.

Pan Marek21 Oct 2020 7:55 a.m. PST

OFM +1

Plus, serious historians spend enormous amounts of time doing research and writing. Most are also university professors.

Personal logo War Artisan Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Oct 2020 8:03 a.m. PST

I find his arguments to be surprisingly shallow for a law professor.

It is, first off, obvious that the short-form, transient format of social media is a less than ideal medium for subjects of any depth or nuance.

When he bemoans historians' lack of participation in spite of their acknowledgement of social media's influence, he doesn't even consider that they might be flagging that influence as negative. When he wonders how they can call social media a "sewer" if they don't read it regularly, he forgets that you don't need to drink from a sewer twice (much less daily) to know it's a sewer. When he says that historians' absence from social media leaves the medium open to "cranks and crackpots", he fails to calculate that, even if every historian became more active on social media, they would still be outnumbered by the crackpots, probably by multiple orders of magnitude. When he fails to see historians' products and collaboration on social media, he doesn't consider that they might be collaborating and marketing elsewhere because they know their target audience (those who think seriously and deeply about history) are not on social media.

donlowry21 Oct 2020 8:34 a.m. PST

Well said, War Artisan!

Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2020 10:08 a.m. PST

I agree with all three of the above posters. I get very discouraged when I read some "short-attention span" Historical drivel on social media site. But then I just turn to my fairly extension library of hard-bound military history books and recover my equilibrium.

Jim

Sajiro21 Oct 2020 10:22 a.m. PST

ColCampbell +1

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2020 1:43 p.m. PST

All of the above +1.

USAFpilot21 Oct 2020 1:53 p.m. PST

What is this "social media" I keep hearing about? :-). I think it is maybe for drips.

Quaama21 Oct 2020 2:49 p.m. PST

Also, all of the above +1.

Will we have here that rare and unique thing, agreement from all on the ACW Discussion Board?

Grelber21 Oct 2020 5:46 p.m. PST

Back at the end of June, I wrote up a piece on Meade's Pipe Creek Line for Facebook. It garnered a number of Likes and a Share. It was a short piece, but people seemed to like and understand it.
Admittedly, this isn't as complex as explaining the way the succession to the English throne played out leading to the Wars of the Roses, which you have to understand if you want to grasp late Medieval English history or the plays of Shakespeare.

Grelber

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP22 Oct 2020 8:00 a.m. PST

Social media is neither…

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP22 Oct 2020 9:20 p.m. PST

Ditto to all the useful comments above. I think professional historians can live without "internet communication."

donlowry24 Oct 2020 8:53 a.m. PST

If you get a book published, you at least get some reward (not enough) for your time, expertise, etc. On social media you don't.

ScottWashburn Sponsoring Member of TMP25 Oct 2020 4:04 p.m. PST

I finished working on my Master's and Ph.D just before the Internet really took off and well before social media. I do have to wonder how having the net might have affected my academic efforts. But historians do tend to lag behind on such things. My advisor, Russell Weigley, still wrote his books using a manual typewriter :)

donlowry28 Oct 2020 8:59 a.m. PST

And good books they were/are!

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