"China's Korean War sacrifices to be highlighted in new films" Topic

"Chinese state media is spotlighting the sacrifices of Chinese soldiers during the 1950-53 Korean War in new movies, and an animation, amid ongoing tensions with the United States.

China observed the 70th anniversary of the War to Resist U.S. Aggression and Aid Korea on Monday, marking the day 70 years ago when the Chinese People's Volunteer Army entered present-day North Korea to fight U.S. and South Korean troops…"

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Armand

"War to Resist U.S. Aggression and Aid Korea". That's rich considering who poured over the boarder first.

China observed the 70th anniversary of the War to Resist U.S. Aggression

Definitely a different POV … And it was not just the US but a UN mission. We flew the UN flag on our Guard Posts and Warrior Base on the DMZ since after the end of the war. When I was in the ROK, 22 months, '84-'85, the UN flag was still there at those locations.

As a veteran I cannot see a problem with the Chinese honoring their veterans of the Korean War especially those who died.
A rather lengthy title for the war. If I remember correctly Mao regarded it aggression of the communist world as soon as the US crossed the border into North Korea. Despite the fact that the North Koreans invaded first.

I wonder are they going to show how well equipped and armed the Chinese army was. Weapons mostly US ( ex Nationalist stuff) the wonderful padded winter suits and aweful tennis shoes. More Chinese volunteers died from Trench foot and Starvation. than combat.

China got involved because MacArthur thought he could call China's bluff by crossing the red line (38th Parallel). There was no way Red China would give up its precious buffer zone from a geopolitical standpoint.

It was a human sacrifice because the badly trained and equipped peasants could only throw their worthless lives away using horde tactics with little more than burp guns (Ppsh-41) and the clothes on their backs – as many died in the harsh winter elements without adequate winter clothing and shoes as combat since they were nowhere equipped like the Americans and S. Koreans. Still, they forced Gen. Oliver Smith and his marines to "attack in a different direction" through sheer numbers alone.

Some famous US President said the "Buck stop here" but was always never at fault for Military Disasters. Even thou they were caused by his mismanagement of the Post war USA armed forces.

You are correct about the result of the campaign, But you have to wonder how many of those Chinese soldiers lived to return to China in the middle 1950's for the victory Parade.

The Chinese warned the US repeatedly not to cross the border, but MacArthur was sure that as an "expert" of Asian thinking, that they were bluffing.

They'll do the same, only a lot faster, when they seize Taiwan by force.

I suspect they're already working on the movie for that.

It'll be released less than a week after the independent island nation has been brought to heel under the heavy, communist Chinese boot.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some "prequel" releases soon, to stir up the masses, and set the proper narrative for invasion. They've already created the bomber attack on Guam one, though they failed to show the Chinese crew of the ancient Soviet bomber they're flying getting shot down for their trouble, and NOT returning to base.

If I remember correctly Mao regarded it aggression of the communist world as soon as the US crossed the border into North Korea. Despite the fact that the North Koreans invaded first.

Yes that was the Communist mindset then and probably is now in some circles.

But you have to wonder how many of those Chinese soldiers lived to return to China in the middle 1950's for the victory Parade.

Many when released made their way to Taiwan or stayed in the ROK, etc. That was one thing that helped the war drag on. The PRC and North Koreans incited by Stalin, wanted their POWs back. While the UN wanted to give them the choice.

When the UN set up the cease fire. The South Korean leadership was upset the US/UN didn't push on to unify the two Koreas. The ROK leadership just opened the gates to their POW camps full of Chinese and North Koreans. Many from the North wanted to go back home. Some even rioted while in a POW camp. The US had to send in combat troops. One was the unit I served with in the early '80s, the 187 ARCT, as it was known then. The only way to regain control was to fight & kill some of rioting EPWs. Mostly North Koreans.

Stalin wanted the war to go on to keep the US and it's Allies busy. And gain as much intel, etc., as possible. Even a few US POWs were sent to the USSR to get intel from them. They disappeared, never to be heard from again. Even after the Cold War was "over" in the early '90s, the US asked about these. And the Russians could find no information on them.

Note Stalin died in '53 … the war "ended"/a truce was put in place in '53. And it is still that way today. We are still in a state of war with the North Koreans.

Stalin and Mao were fully engaged in being Communists brothers and wanted to turn the World into a "workers paradise". You can even see this in some of the comments Khrushchev made to Kennedy in the early '60s.

I wonder are they going to show how well equipped and armed the Chinese army was. Weapons mostly US ( ex Nationalist stuff) the wonderful padded winter suits and aweful tennis shoes. More Chinese volunteers died from Trench foot and Starvation. than combat.

It was a human sacrifice because the badly trained and equipped peasants could only throw their worthless lives away using horde tactics with little more than burp guns (Ppsh-41) and the clothes on their backs – as many died in the harsh winter elements without adequate winter clothing and shoes as combat

Classic Communist mind set. The PRC has so many "bodies" they could afford to "waste" many of them. And did … and would probably do it again.

A point of clarification on the Chinese troops initially committed to their counter-invasion of North Korea is in order.

According to Jung Chang in her massive and myth dispelling biography, "Mao," the troops in question were all previously part of the former Nationalist Army whose training was influenced by the US in the period running up to their ultimate defeat.

They were quite deliberately chosen by Mao for the double purpose of attempting to defeat the US and UN forces, but also to incinerate them so as to further reduce the numbers of Chinese who might oppose him. A classically Machiavellian approach to politics and warfare by the greatest monster in history.

TVAG

Thanks!.

Amicalement
Armand

Interesting comment by TVAG – never knew that. Learn something new everyday – usually from this forum.

I never knew that either … If he wanted to get rid of those troops he came close as many died in combat and from the elements, starvation, disease, etc. There were not too many left from the Chicom first waves crossing into the South. Estimates state the Chicoms lost 180,000 – 900,000 during the Korean War.

That would make sense why many when released from UN POW camps they headed for Taiwan, stayed in the ROK, etc.

When running ops along the DMZ during my 2d tour in '85. With a US ARMY Mech Bn of the 2ID. After a heavy monsoon, the Imjin River rose and then fell. 5 Chicom remains, mostly bones were found along the river bank. Myself and our Bn PA were sent to the site.

The PA counted the bones and got 5 sets of remains. I ID'd them from the few remains of what was left of their equipment, etc. Even found a metal that one of them must have been given after Mao's Long March, '34-'35. link

The bones were gathered up and put in a cardboard box from the Motor Pool. The ROK MPs came by before we could do that. And started crushing the skulls, etc. They quickly ID'd them as Chicoms from the war. We had to stop them as that is a war crime to destroy human remains.

Those remains must have been there '53. The items collected we gave to the Team from 2ID museum and put on display there later.

In a UN ceremony US, ROK and Gurkhas of the UN Honor Guard Company from Seoul. Carried them across the line at Panmunjom. Where the Peace Talks were going there on since '53 and still are.

The remains were placed in a very nice lacquered box, with gold or bronze handles and decorations, etc. Must have been from the ROK Gov't ? Never was told. The UN Honor Guard tuned the box with the remains over to a Chinese Honor Guard. In an attempt to show good will, etc.

It's what the Chinese government wants the people to believe. It doesn't really matter what we think are the "correct" facts.
The propaganda isn't directed at us.

Very true … much of what China, North Korea, Russia and Iran say and do is for their own populations' consumption.

It's not just the 'baddies' that pump out propaganda aimed primarily at their own people. Every government does this.

It's more obvious with certain countries, and if there is no free press to hold them to account even more so.

In the western democracies it has been the tendency for MSM outlets to sacrifice journalism for access. We can at least still find out what is going on by searching out independent media online. That's nearly impossible in China and I suspect totally impossible in North Korea.

It's not just the 'baddies' that pump out propaganda aimed primarily at their own people. Every government does this.

Nothing new there … however, I'm siding on side of the US, most US Allies, the West, etc.

It's more obvious with certain countries, and if there is no free press to hold them to account even more so.

Yeah … I see a lot those as the "Badd Guys".

Remember what Churchill said about Democracy …

Nice posters…(smile)

Amicalement
Armand

Looks like they had help from Hollywood !