"Lost on Mars - Why space colonization will disappoint you" Topic

"For the Achaemenid kings of ancient Persia, the world outside their dominion was a desert to turn into a garden. Ahura Mazda, Zoroastrianism's creator and most wise lord, had given them power, and with it the responsibility of regency. In conquest and faithful rule they would undo the drought and disorder made by diabolic Angra Mainyu and bring forth in the dry places fresh springs of water, both verily in walled gardens and metaphorically with truth. What they built with their hands and their laws was to make one paradise.

In Genesis we are told Jehovah planted a garden in the east in Eden, and that there he put the man whom he had formed. He put him in that paradise to dress it and to keep it. For man was made in God's image, after his likeness, male and female. And God said unto them, "Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it," and gave them dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creeps upon the earth. But man and woman fell in disobedience. And therefore the Lord God sent man forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.

Later we read that humanity wished to make a name for itself. And accordingly, lest they be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth, they set to build a city and a tower, whose top might reach unto heaven. But Jehovah said, "Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech." And did. So men left their tower to ruin, and the name of that place was called Babel, for man's language was confounded, and they were scattered abroad upon the face of the earth…"
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Armand

I'm guessing it is because Mars is inhospitable, though that's only a guess.

Compared to some cities and/or countries on our planet though, perhaps it does look more inviting from some aspects.

It ain't the kind of place to raise your kids.

Need to get the oxygen machine going, call Arnold!!!

The fact you need a lifeline of supplies from earth is a deal breaker. Imagine your on Mars a couple of years getting a supply rocket every 3 months. Then do to some mess on Earth (insert political upheaval, natural disaster, economic collapse, pandemic etc) your getting only two resupply rockets a year, Then one, then opps we can't build a rocket this year!

Slow death in a place with our current technology we can't live. Economics alone would suggest failure.

Yea, we really need the FTL drive, AND an earthlike planet to travel to, that has water, oxygen, and reasonable temps freely available.

Edible plant life and fauna would be nice too, though I suspect that'w what aliens that might want to, or that have visited us want also, which could make things really "interesting" when multiple light years from home, especially if your spaceship gets damaged, or destroyed.

Reminds me of an olde episode of either the Twilight Zone, or The Outer Limits, where the seemingly benevolent aliens invite the humans for dinner, conveniently omitting the fact that the latter will be on the menu once they arrive.

"To Serve Man," all time classic Twilight Zone episode.

Still has the best single line perhaps in the history of Sci-Fi--and I won't repeat it in case anyone doesn't already know.

Go see it in full here: YouTube link

Enjoy with a bowl of popcorn….

TVAG

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Amicalement
Armand

To colonize Mars, you have to create a sustainable habitable place, so that you're not permanently dependent on supplies from Earth.

We know that there is water on Mars. n.1. There is oxygen in the Martian atmosphere. n.2. Martian soil has what earth plants need to grow. n.3 The Sun may not be an adequate power source for a Mars colony, n.4., but a small nuclear plant brought from Earth would provide far more energy than an initial population would need, n.5.

So making a place for humans to live independently on Mars appears to be possible. It won't be fast, easy, or cheap.

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Thanks!.

Amicalement
Armand

TVAG
You should know it's not going to turn out well when your alien visitor is Jaws with increased brain capacity…

It's disappointing because the reality is a lot of hard work like farming, construction, and maintenance.

If you are lost on Mars, saying you suck at navigating doesn't even begin to cover it.