"British Carrier Strike Group begins to form" Topic
8 Posts
All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.
Please remember that some of our members are children, and act appropriately.
For more information, see the TMP FAQ.
Back to the Ultramodern Warfare (2014-present) Message Board
Areas of InterestModern
Featured Hobby News Article
Featured Link
Featured Ruleset
Featured Showcase Article
Featured Book Review
|
| Tango01 | 01 Oct 2020 4:20 p.m. PST |
"HMS Queen Elizabeth will sail with HMS Kent, HMS Defender, HMS Diamond, HMS Northumberland, RFA Tideforce, RFA Fort Victoria, Dutch Frigate HNLMS Evertsen, American Destroyer USS The Sullivans and an unnamed British nuclear submarines. The vessels will participate in the UK's Carrier Strike Group exercise (GROUPEX) and Joint Warrior 20-2 (JW202)…"
Main page
link
Amicalement
Armand
|
| 15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 01 Oct 2020 6:26 p.m. PST |
|
| arealdeadone | 01 Oct 2020 6:55 p.m. PST |
Given they've only ordered 42 out of 48 authorised F-35s and deliveries are slow (only 19 delivered to date and 48 planned by 2025) it's gonna be a while until this strike group has any real aviation teeth. Note out of those 19 only about 9 are assigned to an operational squadron (617 Dambusters). 6-7 are used for training by 207 Sqn and 3 are dedicated test & evaluation aircraft .
Oh and it appears overall planned F-35 numbers are going be halved from 138 to 70 aircraft which will really hurt air wing sustainability.
|
| Inch High Guy | 02 Oct 2020 6:45 a.m. PST |
Glad to see the Royal Navy working to re-establish this capability. |
| 15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 02 Oct 2020 7:24 a.m. PST |
Given they've only ordered 42 out of 48 authorised F-35s and deliveries are slow (only 19 delivered to date and 48 planned by 2025) it's gonna be a while until this strike group has any real aviation teeth.Note out of those 19 only about 9 are assigned to an operational squadron (617 Dambusters). 6-7 are used for training by 207 Sqn and 3 are dedicated test & evaluation aircraft . Oh and it appears overall planned F-35 numbers are going be halved from 138 to 70 aircraft which will really hurt air wing sustainability. No worries. They had this covered years ago. link |
| Tango01 | 02 Oct 2020 1:09 p.m. PST |
|
| Thresher01 | 02 Oct 2020 7:21 p.m. PST |
Hmmm, so with 9 aircraft to an operational squadron, and with the current serviceability rates, that means 3 – 4 may be ready for combat ops. Giving the Brits the benefit of the doubt, since they did produce very high numbers in The Falklands Conflict, let's double that to 6 per carrier, for the first sortie. Complexity and parts availability issues will keep them from getting their numbers up above 67% or so, I imagine, which is significantly greater than the US' 30% – 40% rates now. If they cut the wing to 70 aircraft, that means you'll have about 21 aircraft available for ops on average, and perhaps, 45 – 50 on the first sortie, assuming the carriers don't get caught napping by an enemy sub, or inbound cruise missiles, in a first strike by the opposition. |
| panzerfrans | 14 Oct 2020 8:43 a.m. PST |
If it hasn't catapults it isn't a real aircraft carrier…
These ships are basically nothing but bloated helicopter carriers.
The British built themselves a nice pair of white elephants to waist their ever diminishing defense budget on.
Ten years from now they'll realize they need to be able to operate real airplanes from these ships, and making that possible will then require a very costly rebuilt.
The French Charles de Gaulle is a real carrier, with an effective airwing, at only two thirds the displacement.
Multiply what the Charles de Gaulle is by 1.5 and you know what these ships could have been. |
|
