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Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2020 11:30 a.m. PST

I'm working towards building a scenario for Placenoit in 28mm. Currently the only gaming scenario I own for it is the one that comes in Shakos "Fields of Glory" book.

Everything in it looks good except for one unit of Prussians that I'm not sure how to field.

So each Prussian Brigade listed in the battle has 2 Line "Regiments" and one Fusilier. All but the 13th Brigade under Von Hake that is.

Here they have listed the Brigade as having two Line Regiments and one "Light Infantry" Regiment.

I'm wondering if anyone knows why they've chosen a Light unit over a Fusilier for this brigade and how should it be modeled for gaming purposes.

Thanks for your thoughts!

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2020 1:48 p.m. PST

Thanks for fixing Bill!

Eumelus Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2020 2:24 p.m. PST

I'm not familiar with Shako, so perhaps the scenario designer is designating units by how they perform in the rules. But as far as historical organization goes, all four brigades of IV Corps (13th, 14th, 15th, and 16th) consisted of one line regiment of 2 musketeer and 1 fusilier battalions plus two landwehr regiments of 3 battalions each.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2020 4:46 p.m. PST

Re the Designer, yeah probably so. I thought maybe the Regiment in particular specialized in Skirmishing like some of the Friekorps or was a converged Jaeger battalion I didn't know about. Thnx.

Eumelus Supporting Member of TMP23 Sep 2020 5:39 p.m. PST

Perhaps the "light infantry" designation is intended to represent the effect of every regiment's volunteer jaeger company, consolidated into a single unit.

Given the numerical superiority of the Prussians versus Lobau's French, I would think you'd have to factor in the landwehr status of the attackers, or else the scenario would be a walkover. But again, I'm not familiar with Shako per se.

BillyNM23 Sep 2020 11:38 p.m. PST

The whole brigade appears to be Landwehr…
link

Allan F Mountford24 Sep 2020 4:39 a.m. PST

@BillyNM
The Brigade comprised one line regiment and two landwehr regiments.
10th (1st Silesian) Regiment.
2nd Neumark Landwehr Regiment.
3nd Neumark Landwehr Regiment.

Uesugi Kenshin Supporting Member of TMP24 Sep 2020 12:12 p.m. PST

Yes, each Brigade in the 4th Corps appears to have contained 1x Line and 2x Landwehr Regiments.

The 2nd Corps, also at Plancenoit, was the opposite with 2x Line Regiments and 1x Landwehr per Brigade if I have my info correct.

2nd Corps also contains the interesting Lutzows Freicorps.

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