Sarge Joe | 20 Sep 2020 7:43 a.m. PST |
may be asked before but chaseur green brighter? |
Artilleryman | 20 Sep 2020 8:44 a.m. PST |
As far as I can tell from reading and looking at surviving items, the green was pretty much the same. There would be variations due to contemporary production methods but I understand that the intention was that the greens would be the same. |
21eRegt | 20 Sep 2020 8:47 a.m. PST |
In 15mm, close enough though the Chasseurs are a bit darker. If you are doing them in a larger scale make the change. |
4th Cuirassier | 20 Sep 2020 9:37 a.m. PST |
Yes, it's line cavalry green, presumably the same for chasseur, dragoons, and lancers. |
deadhead | 20 Sep 2020 9:53 a.m. PST |
ah ha…but which green to folk use? Whether Vallejo, GamesWorkshop,or a dozen other US or UK or from more sensible countries, is it anything like the Humbrol "Authenticolours" Dragoon green of the early 70s? That was "Lep Reconn" Green (and if you do read Artemis Fowl, do not bother after the first volume, which is simply brilliant) |
4th Cuirassier | 20 Sep 2020 11:26 a.m. PST |
The correct green to use would depend on the lighting conditions. Are we talking Spanish desert sunshine, north Italian wan springtime sunlight or pi55ing Walloon rain? |
Sarge Joe | 20 Sep 2020 11:38 a.m. PST |
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Artilleryman | 20 Sep 2020 2:25 p.m. PST |
I use Vallejo Black Green 100 as the base colour and then lighten as required for bleaching etc. |
SHaT1984 | 20 Sep 2020 4:10 p.m. PST |
Yes ths same green. Also used for the Imperial court and SAI Emperors servants etc. No olive. That may be a consequence of sun baked Spain campaign, but not original. There was? the Gendarmes d'Ordonnace? who had a chasseur style uniform, silver laced, that was paler however. Take your pick- after 200 years they ares still full of flavour__
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setsuko | 21 Sep 2020 5:39 a.m. PST |
Vallejo Luftwaffe Green is a pretty good alternative IMHO. Again, same colour for all cavalry, not different between Chasseurs and Dragoons. Not olive. |
Sarge Joe | 21 Sep 2020 9:00 a.m. PST |
i knew i saw it somewere foundry paint card 2nd page dragoon70 a. b. c.? which a is the basic highlight b.c. read the text no info chaseur |
Lord Hill | 21 Sep 2020 1:23 p.m. PST |
For questions like this, I always recall my old junior school uniform. The blazer was a red wine "plum" colour. In the five years I was there, there were at least 3 different colours from different batches that the school tailor had used. They were all a dark wine colour but they were all also clearly different. I would imagine that if such a variation in colour existed in a uniform in the 1970s then it was almost certainly the same in the Napoleonic period. |
Stoppage | 21 Sep 2020 2:24 p.m. PST |
I'm with Lord Hill. Use three different shades of green within a unit. Officers and, possibly, prima-plana ncos in darker hues. Now Collars and Cuffs… Would these by dyed regimentally? If so, then these all the same. |
jwebster | 21 Sep 2020 3:02 p.m. PST |
In my opinion, looking for the exact colour is a waste of time Even if the original dye were consistent across batches and different manufacturers of cloth, within a month on campaign it would look different So which paint to use depends entirely on your painting style. Personally I like brighter colours, the smaller the scale, the brighter the colour. Not fluorescent, I tone it down with washes John |
SHaT1984 | 21 Sep 2020 4:41 p.m. PST |
>>Use three different shades of green within a unit. Officers and, possibly, prima-plana ncos in darker hues. Not so much for the average regiment, but I decided as I was re-rebuilding my Chasseurs de la Garde that, since it was incrementally enlarged fom 1800, every time a reorganisation took place new uniform was NOT issued all round, nor horse equipment etc. So as my new/ repainting goes along, I'm also incrementally working toward a 'final' colour suitable for the 1805 campaign. Both original plain 'hussar' styles and customised campaign style figures will be present. d |
Stoppage | 21 Sep 2020 7:00 p.m. PST |
@shat1984 Someone else had the excellent idee of sporting different uniforms for the various companies/esquadrons – all the variations within a regiment – brilliant! Personally the Grognard regiments should sport ancient, thread-bare uniforms, the new-comers should be costumed in the latest finery. To each their own. |
SHaT1984 | 21 Sep 2020 9:56 p.m. PST |
Stoppage- yes I agree. Some will represent a well-worn look, something from Marego perhaps- several anachronisms that well may have been (Anatomy…) tolderated, - an officer with his Directory sabretache; - Bessieres gets a senior NCO valet/ servant (an old school man like himself) in a respectable uniform for a Marshals mate (and yes senior military did employ regimental retirees/ cast-offs at their own expense). The figure I'm using is a custom specialty. - more officers in the regiment and at Headquarters, both Garde and Army. to represent various duties, and the regiment will carry two Aigles et Guidons given their 'special' status, compared to only one in all the line units. All my Garde plus the 1er Carabiniers will carry two Eagles. (The Hinchliffe model is quite nice and fits well with the 'Minifigs' army). d |